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By using a lot of people's arguments, shouldn't Jacobs give Sulecki a rematch too? That fight has a lot of parallels to the Golovkin fight. It was a close, competitive fight where one guy was supposed to dominate and stop the other. Said other guy puts up a better fight than people expected and basically the fight comes down to one guy getting dropped. I don't agree with how much the official cards were in favor of Jacobs to where the KD was just icing on the cake. Danny is in the same position GGG was in, in that why would he rematch a guy who he already beat when he's got more lucrative fights in front of him? Sounds awfully familiar.
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Originally posted by DreamFighter View PostJudge Fighter 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 Total[21]
Max DeLuca Golovkin 10 9 10 10 10 9 9 10 10 9 9 9 114
Jacobs 9 10 9 8 9 10 10 9 9 10 10 10 113
Don Trella Golovkin 10 9 10 10 10 9 9 10 10 9 9 10 115
Jacobs 9 10 9 8 9 10 10 9 9 10 10 9 112
Steve Weisfeld Golovkin 10 10 9 10 10 9 10 10 10 9 9 9 115
Jacobs 9 9 10 8 9 10 9 9 9 10 10 10 112
end of convo.. though perhaps it was shade closer than that.
c'mon dont crap on 3G's 2nd good win.
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Originally posted by daggum View Postaww your crazy fan fiction has melted your brain. you stayed in your bubble so long with your fellow tards that you actually now believe that the crazy things someone made up a long time ago are true.
he refused to fight mora because he fought curtis stevens instead. a top 10 fighter(mora was not) who was coming off an explosive knockout. a new yorker for his fight in new york. framing it as if he ducked sergio mora wow thats lower than a ward low blow
hmm lets see exciting top 10 knockout artist who is from new york or boring unranked guy from la for ggg's fight in new york hmmmm according to you he should have went with the second guy. you aren't a hater though making this ****** crap up. just a boxing fan! complete lack of knowledge of the events that happened combined with crazy hatred is never a good combo. it makes people come up with this craziness. maybe in your own bubble sergio mora is a big deal but in the real world hes not and he wasnt
you got absolutely nothing. he ducked sergio mora to fight someone better! he ducked ward when ward wanted him to postpone his cotto-canelo fight! a real duck is when you fight sharmba mitchell for 3 million instead of margarito for 7. i wont name who did that. have fun with your fantasy ducks
trash resume, fought only 5 world champs, said 154-168 ezfomi yet fought no one at those weights.
and thats who you defend????????
LOL
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Originally posted by daggum View Postaww your crazy fan fiction has melted your brain. you stayed in your bubble so long with your fellow tards that you actually now believe that the crazy things someone made up a long time ago are true.
he refused to fight mora because he fought curtis stevens instead. a top 10 fighter(mora was not) who was coming off an explosive knockout. a new yorker for his fight in new york. framing it as if he ducked sergio mora wow thats lower than a ward low blow
hmm lets see exciting top 10 knockout artist who is from new york or boring unranked guy from la for ggg's fight in new york hmmmm according to you he should have went with the second guy. you aren't a hater though making this ****** crap up. just a boxing fan! complete lack of knowledge of the events that happened combined with crazy hatred is never a good combo. it makes people come up with this craziness. maybe in your own bubble sergio mora is a big deal but in the real world hes not and he wasnt
you got absolutely nothing. he ducked sergio mora to fight someone better! he ducked ward when ward wanted him to postpone his cotto-canelo fight! a real duck is when you fight sharmba mitchell for 3 million instead of margarito for 7. i wont name who did that. have fun with your fantasy ducks
not just Mora, EVERYONE.....
1) he made a bunch of silly excuses to avoid Sergio Mora in a showcase on HBO, preferring instead to fight a NO-HOPER in Monaco on free-TV
Mora was an ex-champ who had clearly faded, which is the ideal opponent for a young fighter attempting to establish himself on the world-stage..... boxing has always worked that way.....
NOT saying that Golovkin could not have beaten Mora, just that the Latin Snake is a known mover/spoiler who is notoriously difficult to look good against..... and they were not willing to risk failing to put Mora away, looking bad in the process, or..... worse
when I heard Loeffler stuttering and stammering his way through half-a-dozen silly excuses, I knew what was up..... that was ridiculous..... because insisting that someone is irrelevant, and not a draw..... only works if you fight someone relevant who IS a draw..... not an unknown NO-HOPER on free TV who is WORSE
missing opportunities like that, and with guys like Cotto..... is why Golovkin only has 97k fans..... he needed those type of fights
2) they did the exact same thing to Lara and Ward, who are both also known mover/spoilers who are notoriously difficult to look good against.....
Lara would have been Golovkin's best opponent to date at that point..... and once again, insisting that someone is irrelevant, and not a draw..... only works if you fight someone relevant who IS a draw..... not guys like Willie Monroe, Wade, Brook, etc.....
3) Ward..... they promised to fight Ward at 168..... a) they killed the fight in June 2015 by demanding a catchweight they knew would kill the fight..... b) in September 2015 they refused that fight in 36 minutes flat
4) the superstar Cotto, should have been the ultimate goal of every fighter from 140-160..... at that point in time, Cotto was the very best option, because May/Pac were totally unrealistic and never going to happen
Mr " anyone from 154-168 " totally refusing to negotiate on weight with the little old faded SUPERSTAR Miguel Cotto..... is the 2nd most bizarre occurrence within boxing that I have witnessed within the last decade
I cannot believe how little was spoken about that situation, both from the media and from the fans..... totally bizarre..... every other fighter from 140-160 would have cut off one of his fingers for that fight, and yet Golovkin would not so much as lift his little finger to make that fight, totally refusing to drop a single pound to fight the 153lb superstar
then a few months after refusing to negotiate on weight with Cotto and Canelo..... Golovkin threw up his hands in frustration and claimed that he was willing and able to fight at 154 but nobody would step up..... WTF???
those are the exact type of fights that Golovkin should have taken
5) they specifically promised to fight Canelo at 154..... but as above, when shht got real they tucked tail and ran from that fight..... and just like above, 6 months after refusing to negotiate on weight with Cotto and Canelo, Golovkin threw up his hands in frustration and claimed that he was willing and able to fight at 154, but nobody would step up.....
6) Derevyanchenko - and Golovkin got stripped
7) Saunders..... why the fcuk would Golovkin select a total NO-HOPER in Vanes, when Saunders was running around with his "dream"..... calling him Pvssy-Borat.,.... and offering to fight him in June???
a unification > a mando, so Golovkin would not have been stripped for refusing to fight Derevyanchenko..... instead, Golovkin avoided TWO threats, selected an inactive JMW, and got stripped for his troubles in the process.....
the very second that Saunders said he was available, there was no other fight to make..... Munguia, Spike, and Vanes..... should never have been mentioned
..... come on, that is the 3rd most bizarre situation within the sport of boxing that I have ever witnessed..... two of those situations being created by Golovkin
8) Charlo - a clear duck
if you think all of that happened by coincidence, you are a fkn dreamer
stop licking Golovkin's sack and then expecting old school fans to applaud you for it..... MANY established journalists have said the exact same thing..... which is why you should have smartened up
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Originally posted by daggum View Postaww your crazy fan fiction has melted your brain. you stayed in your bubble so long with your fellow tards that you actually now believe that the crazy things someone made up a long time ago are true.
he refused to fight mora because he fought curtis stevens instead. a top 10 fighter(mora was not) who was coming off an explosive knockout. a new yorker for his fight in new york. framing it as if he ducked sergio mora wow thats lower than a ward low blow
hmm lets see exciting top 10 knockout artist who is from new york or boring unranked guy from la for ggg's fight in new york hmmmm according to you he should have went with the second guy. you aren't a hater though making this ****** crap up. just a boxing fan! complete lack of knowledge of the events that happened combined with crazy hatred is never a good combo. it makes people come up with this craziness. maybe in your own bubble sergio mora is a big deal but in the real world hes not and he wasnt
you got absolutely nothing. he ducked sergio mora to fight someone better! he ducked ward when ward wanted him to postpone his cotto-canelo fight! a real duck is when you fight sharmba mitchell for 3 million instead of margarito for 7. i wont name who did that. have fun with your fantasy ducks
Curtis Stevens loooool
that is stooping REALLY low man LMAO
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It's insane how much time these guys dedicate to posting about Golovkin. Holy ****. I wonder if they have some sort of outline saved where they go and add or subtract certain points. But if those kind of posts are all built from scratch, jesus christ. Utterly ****ing pathetic. It's not even about Golovkin anymore. That level of obsession is weird, as if anything you're doing on these boards matter. All that time dedicated for what?
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Originally posted by AKAcronym View PostIt's insane how much time these guys dedicate to posting about Golovkin. Holy ****. I wonder if they have some sort of outline saved where they go and add or subtract certain points. But if those kind of posts are all built from scratch, jesus christ. Utterly ****ing pathetic. It's not even about Golovkin anymore. That level of obsession is weird, as if anything you're doing on these boards matter......
no need to worry..... that reply was cut n pasted
it was cut n pasted (again) because those points still stand
Originally posted by AKAcronym View Post..... All that time dedicated for what?
to shut up the casual fanboys who are writing their ******ed nonsense from scratch
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