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  • #41
    Originally posted by thack View Post
    Since Cummings dropped him Tyson has become a much better fighter .If Tyson hasn't done his body in with his antics he will take some getting past.I'd pick Tyson to have a better chance at avoiding Wilders huge punchers than I would with A.J. who I think would be a sitting duck for them.
    Been saying that a long time now Joshua usually gets rocked him vs Wilder comes down to the better chin ,fury moves alot more grab jab and moves fury match up wise is harder for wilder than Joshua, just like I believe Ortiz would give Joshua trouble fury would give Wilder trouble since fury moves alot it'll be a little bit harder for wilderto set that big right hand up, Wilder I hope wins though to piss the Brits off especially hearn and get that fair share of the purse vs Joshua

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    • #42
      Not at all worried about Tyson beating Wilder. I was, but then he started talking more and more about what he plans to do and bubba his plans are all wrong.

      First his mental game. What the damn hell guy? Wilder is already going to look to take your head off. Motivating him is just motivating him, he's not going to get emotional and fighter differently because there is no differently for him to fight. He's not Wlad, he's Deontay Wilder. He over loads, over reaches, punches too often, and gets off balanced already. If you must see them as bad things then it's best to say it like this; he's not going to get even worse in those regards because there is no worse to get.

      Next his physical game. Wilder's not going to get confused and try to figure him out. Not because Wilder knows the answer, but because Wilder has always been indifferent to the chess match. Only Tyson is playing chess, Wilder, in his own words, is a gladiator. He's fighting along an entirely different game plan which is why the loading,reaching, off balance, etc isn't a bad thing to him. Tyson's going to find out the same thing Mayweather showed McGregor. If you can dish it but you can't take it we don't even need to box to knock you out we need to walk you down like a caveman. Wilder's going to do everything wrong and that's why he's going to knock Tyson Fury out. Tyson will be as happy to believe he's beating Wilder as Szpilka was. The boxer breaks down his opponent to get a KO or early end. A puncher lays work throughout the fight too, in the form of baiting for the perfect punch. If tyson plans to box he is giving Wilder his best chance. He is playing chess and that's all Wilder needs him to do.

      Finally, Tyson's with a **** team of kiss asses because he doesn't feel like he has anymore to learn.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by Bobby Shaw View Post
        Your thoughts on Charles Martin please.
        He didn't win a legit title so what else? If you think every top challenger that wins fights in the top ten are bums then your bum designation is pretty distorted. And Wilder damn sure ain't no Martin.

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        • #44
          Fury about to catch that thunderous hand and it's lights out.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by Jack_***** View Post
            Ok. Lets do it.
            I'm working today but I'll get back to you this afternoon - uk time - or tomorrow latest

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            • #46
              Originally posted by Noelanthony View Post
              Tyson is very convincing I will give him that. Nope I’ve made up my mind. Pianeta who is 6ft 2 clipped Tyson so I’m backing Wilder to catch him also
              He's not that convincing. He said Wilder has no speed - wrong! He may swing from way back but that punch travels from waaay back to chin very quickly which is why it catches so many opponents. Second he said he has poor footwork. This is true in general but his first foot forward to jab/straight right is very fast - and that is what he needs to ko folks. I don't see any way that Fury CAN'T be clipped hard at some point.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by Marchegiano View Post
                Not at all worried about Tyson beating Wilder. I was, but then he started talking more and more about what he plans to do and bubba his plans are all wrong.

                First his mental game. What the damn hell guy? Wilder is already going to look to take your head off. Motivating him is just motivating him, he's not going to get emotional and fighter differently because there is no differently for him to fight. He's not Wlad, he's Deontay Wilder. He over loads, over reaches, punches too often, and gets off balanced already. If you must see them as bad things then it's best to say it like this; he's not going to get even worse in those regards because there is no worse to get.

                Next his physical game. Wilder's not going to get confused and try to figure him out. Not because Wilder knows the answer, but because Wilder has always been indifferent to the chess match. Only Tyson is playing chess, Wilder, in his own words, is a gladiator. He's fighting along an entirely different game plan which is why the loading,reaching, off balance, etc isn't a bad thing to him. Tyson's going to find out the same thing Mayweather showed McGregor. If you can dish it but you can't take it we don't even need to box to knock you out we need to walk you down like a caveman. Wilder's going to do everything wrong and that's why he's going to knock Tyson Fury out. Tyson will be as happy to believe he's beating Wilder as Szpilka was. The boxer breaks down his opponent to get a KO or early end. A puncher lays work throughout the fight too, in the form of baiting for the perfect punch. If tyson plans to box he is giving Wilder his best chance. He is playing chess and that's all Wilder needs him to do.

                Finally, Tyson's with a **** team of kiss asses because he doesn't feel like he has anymore to learn.


                Good post

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                • #48
                  Its one hell of a trick though

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                  • #49
                    Fury is going to make Wilder look like the bum he is.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Boxing Goat View Post
                      He didn't win a legit title so what else? If you think every top challenger that wins fights in the top ten are bums then your bum designation is pretty distorted. And Wilder damn sure ain't no Martin.
                      Didn't you say no champion was a bum?

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