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  • EMOBCBG
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    #51
    Originally posted by Rip Chudd
    1. Wilder is going to lose to Fury
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    I second. I also have a strong belief that fury will beat wilder.

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    • Dat
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      #52
      Hearn needs to wait until after the Wilder-Fury bout. Hearn is trying to push his weight around as usual. I’m not surprised if that so called offer is one sided again.

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      • The Westerner
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        #53
        hearn should stick his fffing idea up his a.ss, am with jo, but negotiating a fight deal with a person who has a fight approaching, is a showing of foolishness because no boxer in wilders level will succumb to that...if hearn is not patient for the fight btw bum squad and gypsy king to be over, then they can go make victim of another bum

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        • MC Hammer
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          #54
          Originally posted by Noelanthony
          Money /splits is usually the reason a fight is not made. Hearn has obviously offered them a split. Forget the split , can they not meet up and just discuss type of gloves , drug testing, media tour ,venue for rematch, potential date for rematch .i.e winner allowed voluntary first etc. Surely they can discuss these points now and agree. The splits can be discussed after the fight

          I say that because after the 1st if either side feel like they have had a raw deal in terms of the split something as easy as agreeing gloves they may dig their heels in
          But Hearn seems to go further than that and wants a complete deal that only has to be signed at after the decision is made in the ring.

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          • Marchegiano
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            #55
            Originally posted by Noelanthony
            You are wrong pal and using AJ/Povetkin to justify your argument is just as foolish. It’s like me saying the Wilder is not popular in the U.K. because his all his showing figures here including his last fight vs Ortiz was low

            Wilder and Fury doesn’t think AJ is irrelevant all posters that comment emotionally including you on a daily basis do not behave like AJ is not in your thoughts.

            I get it you think AJ will fight Whyte. You said it months ago, you said it a month ago, two weeks ago, last week, yesterday ,today. Now you want to tell me everyone in North America doesn’t give a s#hit . ���� maybe you are right but you are his biggest fan secretly.

            I want to offer you a job at the helm for all your hard work in keeping AJ relevant with your rants
            Not many in either Americas gives a **** about Joshua bubba. Back when it was ok to be fans of both champions Joshua was hard to get eyes on because he's european.

            It's not a we're not winning so we don't care thing like y'all claim all the time in just about every sport we don't win at. It's because you guys, from the American perspective, are soft. We don't watch soccer in the states because soccer is a pansy boy sport about equal to volleyball. It's a lady sport. Same mentality bud. If Joshua wants some American presence he is going to have to convince the American audience he isn't a tinkerbell. Nothing else will get him there.


            Class makes you just golfing...they get a star, one star, once a generation or so.

            Or dig this, how can you be Ali in the US when you're acting like Larry? You can't be Mike Tyson if you wanna conduct yourself like Wlad.

            Dre? no sell. Money is money though.

            I'm not hating, I'm not calling you a pansy boy personally, just highlighting the very basic juxtaposition of the two nations.

            That said, Eddie's style of promotion is interesting in America. I can't say it won't work....I am no promoter and surely Mister Hearn has plans, but on the surface of things sitting down with a camera to offer excuse after excuse is not how you sell in the US regardless of how logical, rational, or well thought out the dissertation is.

            Since when has America been the home of the rational and well thought out?

            Going more south just gets worse.

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            • Noelanthony
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              #56
              Originally posted by Marchegiano
              Not many in either Americas gives a **** about Joshua bubba. Back when it was ok to be fans of both champions Joshua was hard to get eyes on because he's european.

              It's not a we're not winning so we don't care thing like y'all claim all the time in just about every sport we don't win at. It's because you guys, from the American perspective, are soft. We don't watch soccer in the states because soccer is a pansy boy sport about equal to volleyball. It's a lady sport. Same mentality bud. If Joshua wants some American presence he is going to have to convince the American audience he isn't a tinkerbell. Nothing else will get him there.


              Class makes you just golfing...they get a star, one star, once a generation or so.

              Or dig this, how can you be Ali in the US when you're acting like Larry? You can't be Mike Tyson if you wanna conduct yourself like Wlad.

              Dre? no sell. Money is money though.

              I'm not hating, I'm not calling you a pansy boy personally, just highlighting the very basic juxtaposition of the two nations.

              That said, Eddie's style of promotion is interesting in America. I can't say it won't work....I am no promoter and surely Mister Hearn has plans, but on the surface of things sitting down with a camera to offer excuse after excuse is not how you sell in the US regardless of how logical, rational, or well thought out the dissertation is.

              Since when has America been the home of the rational and well thought out?

              Going more south just gets worse.
              Lololololol .....Soccer!! What’s that? Never heard of it. That term does not exist in this country.

              There is this Sport I’ve heard about through the g****vine called American football where 250 lb plus men have the opportunity to wear Lycra leggings and shoulder pads and coupled with wearing BMX helmets on their head with no bicycles in sight. Then with their costumes on they are asked to run about. What kind Freak show is that.

              We have the equivalent here in rugby but no protection . No silly shoulder pads like you are legion of doom in WWE. A man’s sport, no protection.

              Then we move on to baseball.... it’s called Fu#cking rounders. You play it up until the age of 9 years and you don’t play it again.

              Dodgeball...LMAO please don’t get me started

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              • Marchegiano
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                #57
                Originally posted by Noelanthony
                Lololololol .....Soccer!! What’s that? Never heard of it. That term does not exist in this country.

                There is this Sport I’ve heard about through the g****vine called American football where 250 lb plus men have the opportunity to wear Lycra leggings and shoulder pads and coupled with wearing BMX helmets on their head with no bicycles in sight. Then with their costumes on they are asked to run about. What kind Freak show is that.

                We have the equivalent here in rugby but no protection . No silly shoulder pads like you are legion of doom in WWE. A man’s sport, no protection.

                Then we move on to baseball.... it’s called Fu#cking rounders. You play it up until the age of 9 years and you don’t play it again.

                Dodgeball...LMAO please don’t get me started

                I didn't make up the stereotypes I just told you about them.

                I don't honestly have any dog in that race. If it's not a combat sport or an extreme sport or strong man competition I don't watch it. I Like boxing, kickboxing, MMA, Sumo, World's Strongest Man and what events I can see that lead up to it, whatever sort of nonsense fighting you can see on Youtube; street beefs, dambe, there was another African one that was kinda neat but I forget it's name. And I can't lie, the kids and their toys like bikes and roller skates and what not doing those tricks like 40 feet in the air do impress me. Rampage is a white knuckle thrill ride my man. Watch my bubba Cam do a backflip off a ****in' mountain 80 friggin' goddamn feet in the air and tell me that **** ain't cool. Ice Cross Downhill is also just really ****in' impressive. Europe does very well in Ice Cross but not so much England, but you still may like it, check it out.

                Just not into ball sports. I can dig into them with you if you like, but I'm no more into English or British goal and score game sports then American or any other.

                I do watch y'all's trick fellas though. Dart guys and snooker fellas just showing off, super cool.

                From my perspective England's a mainstay high level player in pretty much everything I watch. Yer alright bubba. Even in boxing, where it's natural and has always been a place to draw nationalistic lines, I have some hope Fury and Joshua do become the clear one and two in the division and put on an all UK showdown for all the marbles right there in your nation for the first time since John L. and Queensberry came into effect. Some, but I am American and I do mostly just want to see my man plaster yours to the canvas.
                Last edited by Marchegiano; 10-17-2018, 11:20 AM. Reason: got their and there'd...urkes me

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                • Noelanthony
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Marchegiano
                  I didn't make up the stereotypes I just told you about them.

                  I don't honestly have any dog in that race. If it's not a combat sport or an extreme sport or strong man competition I don't watch it. I Like boxing, kickboxing, MMA, Sumo, World's Strongest Man and what events I can see that lead up to it, whatever sort of nonsense fighting you can see on Youtube; street beefs, dambe, there was another African one that was kinda neat but I forget it's name. And I can't lie, the kids and their toys like bikes and roller skates and what not doing those tricks like 40 feet in the air do impress me. Rampage is a white knuckle thrill ride my man. Watch my bubba Cam do a backflip off a ****in' mountain 80 friggin' goddamn feet in the air and tell me that **** ain't cool. Ice Cross Downhill is also just really ****in' impressive. Europe does very well in Ice Cross but not so much England, but you still may like it, check it out.

                  Just not into ball sports. I can dig into them with you if you like, but I'm no more into English or British goal and score game sports then American or any other.

                  I do watch y'all's trick fellas though. Dart guys and snooker fellas just showing off, super cool.

                  From my perspective England's a mainstay high level player in pretty much everything I watch. Yer alright bubba. Even in boxing, where it's natural and has always been a place to draw nationalistic lines, I have some hope Fury and Joshua do become the clear one and two in the division and put on an all UK showdown for all the marbles right there in your nation for the first time since John L. and Queensberry came into effect. Some, but I am American and I do mostly just want to see my man plaster yours to the canvas.
                  Lololololol. Good response

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                  • Oshio
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                    #59
                    No fight until 2019 December

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Mrbamladen
                      ...and he will be promoted from that point on as the real champion here in America. Meanwhile, Joshua will be seen as a nothing more than a belt holder, and a star strictly in the UK.
                      So you are saying that Wilder isn't a real champion at the moment? But if he wins he will be the 'American Champ' and that is better than Joshua being the 'UK Champ'? Get over the nationalities. If he is only a star in the UK, why have Fury and Wilder been using Joshua's name to promote their own careers???

                      Anthony Joshua is the No1 rated HW. Deontay Wilder is the No2 rated HW. Both are belt holders. Both are Champions. Deal with it.

                      The reason why Hearn is now chasing so much is because there isn't anyone out there in there that AJ wants to fight other than Wilder. Joshua wants to unify and IF Fury wins, you watch how bad the fall of Wilder will be as he fights on the undercard of the Fury v Joshua Undisputed Unification bout.

                      What Finkel is doing is massive risk to Deontay Wilder's career. No talks before Dec 1st and Wilder takes an L, Finkel gets fired. Hearn and Joshua will still go on to make some serious money. Even if Wilder/Fury have a rematch, Fury will focus on Joshua and look to evade the rematch because if Fury can beat him coming off 2 years off, fighting 2 bums and winning, I'm certain Fury will win the rematch.

                      Joshua is just sitting pretty, waiting for the only competition (Wilder/Fury) to beat each other and make someone irrelevant on the path to undisputed glory.

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