Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: Saunders-VADA, Khabib, Mike Tyson, More

[H.B.Viper]

Breadman.

Big fan of the "Mailbag".
I love Mike as well but......
Comparing his rein to Holmes is crazy.
No disrespect.
Razor vs Shavers twice?
Winning a title against Berbick, Seldon, & Spinks vs Ken Norton?
Holmes was NEVER STOPPED when he defended his title.
When Larry got dropped, he got back up.
Don't think Tyson would have got up from Shavers, Weaver, or Snipes if hit flush like Larry.
Again, love Mike, but I just don't see it.

[Bardamu]

No one bans oxiwhatever in training. No one. VADA's website even states

This document contains the Official Prohibited List (Substances and Methods) of the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association (VADA). VADA guidelines concerning these specific substances and groups are intended to closely track internationally recognized standards for substances prohibited by sport, such as the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) Official Prohibited List of 2018. Therefore, nomenclature for these substances, classification groups and other uses by the WADA Prohibited List will be preserved, unless otherwise specified by VADA.

://vada-testing.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/VADA_Prohibited_List_2018.pdf

No where does VADA say the use in training is prohibited. It is not banned in training for anything. Not UFC, not NFL, not NBA, not Olympic athletes, not MLB, not even the PGA. So, to refuse to license a champion for not breaking any rules, is rather ridiculous.

As for the take, that it is a stimulant, and stimulants STIMULATE (aka give an extra boost of energy) it would help in training. The same is true of Red Bulls and other forms of caffeine. Thus, if Breadman wants to eliminate any ped, even in training, and he considers stimulants a ped, than caffeine should also be banned. In fact, WADA was/is studying caffeine's use as a ped and has it on a list of substances that might be prohibited in the near future.

I'm all against peds, but if WADA allows it, VADA allows it, the MSAC allows it, and the WBO allows it, then what exactly is BJS in trouble for? WADA doesn't allow it in competition, because it is a stimulant! Duh! Just like Red Bull. And that is why pro athletes ingest caffeine in training. For that little extra boost.

BJS is a HOF P.O.S. and possibly should be suspended for that. But making up rules just weeks before a fight, is not right. And it also is most likely illegal as Hell. Which is why BJS is suing the MSAC and will almost certainly win this lawsuit.

[Butch.McRae]

Did I read that right?? Breadman wrote that Crawford is going to be knocked down early, but get up and win a decision??? Crazy prediction.

See my post lol I've noticed a trend with his "predictions"

[VatoMulatto]

Did I read that right?? Breadman wrote that Crawford is going to be knocked down early, but get up and win a decision??? Crazy prediction.

Yeah, should be interesting to see if Breadman is spot on with his prediction.

[factsarenice]

I really appreciate the perspective on Iron Mike at 21 years old...21

I also see the Crawford fight much the same, Jose Benvinedez will take shots to land something meaningful. Benavidez is big guy that spars very big guys. Jose believes that he can win as long as he fights hard enough and long enough he'll catch Crawford in the exchange. Bud is a fighter that can box but he's a fighter first and he can be goaded into an exchange. Jose knew exactly what he was doing in the face to face, he wants Terrance to come right at him so that they can trade.

[HandsofIron]

Great breakdown on Tyson.

[The D3vil]

Yeah, I always get mad at how these so-called "smart" fans love to diss "Iron Mike" because of his iconic status and come with their regurgitated mess about how "overrated" he is. Knew Bread would put them in their place.

But hey, I'm seeing guys on here claiming Ali is overrated and he beat 3 of the 10 best heavyweights who ever lived.

[u122564]

Yeah, I always get mad at how these so-called "smart" fans love to diss "Iron Mike" because of his iconic status and come with their regurgitated mess about how "overrated" he is. Knew Bread would put them in their place.

But hey, I'm seeing guys on here claiming Ali is overrated and he beat 3 of the 10 best heavyweights who ever lived.

they hear a guy like teddy atlas go off his rocker about tyson and just believe it instead of actually researching tysons career. bread's recognition of tyson is spot on, hes not top tier great but he's a hall of fame guy.
also his prediction of crawford v benavidez was almost spot on bar the knock down.