Billy "Juice" Saunders to sue over his canceled fight with Demetrius Andrade

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  • _Rexy_
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    #31
    Originally posted by Holler
    Lawyers love grey areas. Those who pay their bills less so.

    So are you saying that two boxers can sign a contract that invalidates the rules that MSAC operate by? That doesn't sound right?
    Check out Scott’s two posts above mine. It explains it much better than I could,

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    • Holler
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      #32
      Originally posted by _Rexy_
      Check out Scott’s two posts above mine. It explains it much better than I could,
      I've read both and neither address the issue I'm referring to. Please understand, I'm not talking about whether or not Saunders is guilty of doping or whether he breached the terms of his VADA agreement. That's not what this proposed lawsuit will be about.

      The question I believe the legal challenge will relate to is whether MSAC followed their own procedures when denying Saunders a license.

      Now I don't know of any way in which a contract between Andrade and Saunders that stipulates VADA testing can impact on MSAC's established procedures which state they use WADA as a guide. Maybe there's a clause somewhere which says it can?

      If there isn't, then there's potentially a claim to settle for a purse of $2.3m plus estimated loss of earning from the denial of that license plus whatever additional damages that Warren's lawyers can swing.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Holler
        Warren put a statement out on his site.

        On Tuesday at a hearing the Massachusetts State Athletic Commission (MSAC) determined that it would not issue a permit to Billy-Joe Saunders for him to defend his WBO World Middleweight title against Demetrius Andrade in Boston on October 20 following an adverse finding in a test carried out by the Voluntary Anti-Dopin


        I think he has a case. Be interesting to see how this pans out.
        To be clear on this, the MSAC governance on doping regulations expressly adhere to the prohibited list set down by the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA). The WADA list distinguishes between substances prohibited “at all times” and substances prohibited “in competition”. The low level of the chemical detected in the test supplied by Billy-Joe – ingested via a nasal spray – is not a prohibited substance when ingested ‘out of competition’ .The VADA test was conducted ‘out of competition’ and so was not prohibited for the purpose of the application of the WADA list and therefore the application of the MSAC rules to Billy-Joe.

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        • Vegemil
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          #34
          Originally posted by Holler
          Warren put a statement out on his site.

          On Tuesday at a hearing the Massachusetts State Athletic Commission (MSAC) determined that it would not issue a permit to Billy-Joe Saunders for him to defend his WBO World Middleweight title against Demetrius Andrade in Boston on October 20 following an adverse finding in a test carried out by the Voluntary Anti-Dopin


          I think he has a case. Be interesting to see how this pans out.
          Seems like he has a case.

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          • Holler
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            #35
            Originally posted by Vegemil
            Seems like he has a case.
            Going by what I've seen of MSAC regs a strong one.

            This could get interesting.

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