Is this Hearn hinting Golden Boy are going to DAZN?

[Redd Foxx]

He hints a lot of things that turn out to be complete fallacies. He's probably the worst news source in boxing.

[dsr]

Not to his stable though lol. Oscar said he’s going to negotiate his own deal. So Hearn better not slip up or he’ll be pushed out the door

Hearn doesn't just have some bog standard rights deal with DAZN. Their US operations are effectively a joint-venture. I'd imagine Hearn is involved in any negotiations around boxing rights acquisitions.

This **** about Oscar going over his head and muscling Matchroom out is ****ing comical.

[THEFRESHBRAWLER]

Hearn doesn't just have some bog standard rights deal with DAZN. Their US operations are effectively a joint-venture. I'd imagine Hearn is involved in any negotiations around boxing rights acquisitions.

This **** about Oscar going over his head and muscling Matchroom out is ****ing comical.

Hey Oscar said it I didn’t. He said he was going to be President also lol

[Eff Pandas]

Today Hearn's telling the truth, yesterday he was lying.

Hearn has been talking about big names coming to DAZN for months & besides the WBSS which is a non-Hearn project he's not got anyone I'd really consider a big US name despite a few having some potential to being that in the future.

But I do find the remark that he's saying interesting cuz I do think if a major player comes to DAZN they are more likely to do their own thing vs sign under Eddie. People keep talking about this exclusive sh^t, but WBSS fights are already on DAZN so how exclusive is Hearn's deal reallllllllly? I say about as exclusive as Arum's deal with ESPN where Oscar's been doing shows during Arum's "exclusive deal" lol.

So basically I'll believe it when I see it. I still don't think it'd make sense for GBP to make a deal that didn't include PPV & DAZN doesn't have PPV. But then again maybe if DAZN's offer is big enough thats workaroundable. And I've speculated that perhaps a deal could be setup where DAZN gets GBP's roster + Canelo's lesser fights & Canelo will be allowed to fight on PPV for his bigger fights with DAZN getting some rights to those PPV fights after a certain period of time like a week after the fact. I think a lot of potential sh^t could make a lot of situations possible right now.

But if DAZN does get Canelo + the GBP roster I think they should see a nice lil bump in subscribers which is their real long game play not Canelo or GBP or Eddie or all the sh^t we mostly talk about concerning DAZN. DAZN is looking to be bigger than just boxing so its all a means to an end.

Although if its not GBP who is it? GGG & Tommy L's 360 roster? Cuz I think thats about all there is for free agents right now besides random Haymon guys that haven't bitten much yet.

Or as mentioned it could just be Eddie simply moving his lips again.

[lanker rom]

@9:45. Doesn't say signing with him. "Deals being announced major fighters going to the DAZN platform"

I think its more likely triple g

[Kezzer]

Its hard to ever read too much into him! It sounds like he has a couple of deals he is waiting to announce though?

Whyte vs Chisora/Ortiz/Brezeale? (First time I heard latter mentioned, has he signed?)

Big Nov 17th card - expected announced next week. Who is on it? New signings?

Khan vs Brook for Feb + brook opponent for 8th Dec?

[dsr]

Today Hearn's telling the truth, yesterday he was lying.

Hearn has been talking about big names coming to DAZN for months & besides the WBSS which is a non-Hearn project he's not got anyone I'd really consider a big US name despite a few having some potential to being that in the future.

But I do find the remark that he's saying interesting cuz I do think if a major player comes to DAZN they are more likely to do their own thing vs sign under Eddie. People keep talking about this exclusive sh^t, but WBSS fights are already on DAZN so how exclusive is Hearn's deal reallllllllly? I say about as exclusive as Arum's deal with ESPN where Oscar's been doing shows during Arum's "exclusive deal" lol.

So basically I'll believe it when I see it. I still don't think it'd make sense for GBP to make a deal that didn't include PPV & DAZN doesn't have PPV. But then again maybe if DAZN's offer is big enough thats workaroundable. And I've speculated that perhaps a deal could be setup where DAZN gets GBP's roster + Canelo's lesser fights & Canelo will be allowed to fight on PPV for his bigger fights with DAZN getting some rights to those PPV fights after a certain period of time like a week after the fact. I think a lot of potential sh^t could make a lot of situations possible right now.

But if DAZN does get Canelo + the GBP roster I think they should see a nice lil bump in subscribers which is their real long game play not Canelo or GBP or Eddie or all the sh^t we mostly talk about concerning DAZN. DAZN is looking to be bigger than just boxing so its all a means to an end.

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I don't know how exclusive Matchroom's contract with DAZN is. Based on their UK business they have been very shrewd in tying Sky to an exclusive deal and any other promoters who want access to the platform have to go through Hearn. There is also the fact that they have consistently described the US project as a joint-venture, they share offices in New York and their staff appear to collaborate regarding almost all aspects of the boxing production and promotion. So from that point of view I don't think they have much to worry about.

But forget all that for a minute; say DAZN are free to make deals with any other promoters they wish. How much money do you think they are willing to throw into boxing exactly? The matchroom deal has been reported at a billion over 8 years. You think they are going to be willing to make a similar size outlay to secure another deal with GBP? That sounds completely beyond the realms of possibility. The big money that they will be playing with to bring big names to the platform will come from that Matchroom deal, so whatever way any relationship is structured it is going to involve Hearn in some capacity.

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Hearn always acting like he has leverage, twats out of his depth. Stick to entertaining drunk, sissy brits on Sky.

[Eff Pandas]

I don't know how exclusive Matchroom's contract with DAZN is. Based on their UK business they have been very shrewd in tying Sky to an exclusive deal and any other promoters who want access to the platform have to go through Hearn. There is also the fact that they have consistently described the US project as a joint-venture, they share offices in New York and their staff appear to collaborate regarding almost all aspects of the boxing production and promotion. So from that point of view I don't think they have much to worry about.

Idk that sharing an office should mean anything. I imagine Hearn isn't hear in the US all that much anyway. I'd assume he's gonna be consistently jetlagged doe if he is doing this still 8 years & further down the line & spending more time in his hotel room vs the office. The cricket guy probably gots an office there too.

But forget all that for a minute; say DAZN are free to make deals with any other promoters they wish. How much money do you think they are willing to throw into boxing exactly?

No clue. This is a world wide company. They obviously have a huge bankroll to do business & I'm positive that Canelo is barely a pimple on their bankroll's world wide ass. Thats a question & concern only DAZN would know. But I see them throwing out huge deals all over the globe so some $100M 4 year deal where they 1 fight a year + secondhand rights a week later for 1 PPV fight a year or some sorta deal like that would seem entirely doable for them & would seem to make sense.

The matchroom deal has been reported at a billion over 8 years. You think they are going to be willing to make a similar size outlay to secure another deal with GBP?

If they are giving Eddie a billion dollars for his sh^tshow of a US roster I'd suspect DAZN would hire some girls to put sh^t up Oscar ass to make this deal along with a nice pile of money.

so whatever way any relationship is structured it is going to involve Hearn in some capacity.

I think you are insane in that thinking. Canelo is the biggest name in the game. He can make his own deals or GBP on his behalf.

Joshua is the 2nd biggest name in the game. Idk Joshua's deal with DAZN so I won't comment too specifically about it, but lets just say this Povetkin fight was a one time deal & Joshua wants to pursue other US outfits to air his fights. He basically wants to see what his true value is in the US market. Do you honestly think if ESPN wanted to sign him Joshua would have to get under TR's banner or Bob would be some sorta pseudo promoter for Joshua?

I don't. I think thats crazy to. Joshua or Hearn on his behalf could pursue their own specific deal cuz they are THAT f#cking big.

And like I've mentioned over n over with this exclusive sh^t maybe they got some small print in the contract to cover super big names or they gotta go verbally put Bob in his place to "okay" a deal they make with a bigger name fighter who would add more value then anyone else on their roster, but there is for f#cking sure a contractually thing in this deal that would allow that.

And like I keep saying the WBSS tournaments are on DAZN now. Oscar was/is putting his fighters on ESPN now. How f#cking exclusive are these deals if there are already non-Matchroom & non-TR, non-Matchroom or TR picked up events on these platforms????? Again I say not as exclusive as a lot of mfers keep acting like.

[Eff Pandas]

Its hard to ever read too much into him! It sounds like he has a couple of deals he is waiting to announce though?

Whyte vs Chisora/Ortiz/Brezeale? (First time I heard latter mentioned, has he signed?)

Big Nov 17th card - expected announced next week. Who is on it? New signings?

Khan vs Brook for Feb + brook opponent for 8th Dec?

I mean being pessimistic he could be signing Sergio Martinez & putting Maravillabox guys on DAZN & maybe this "DAZN platform" talk is just a way of putting it that sounds bigger or like it could be something bigger like GGG or Canelo.

I feel like nothing is gonna move with Khan til Manny's situation is figured out. Cuz I could 100% see Manny vs Khan being the warmup fight to Manny vs Floyd. And I think Khan knows that & I think Khan wouldn't be ****** to think if he were to beat Manny that that could lead to a fight with Floyd. HUGE win for Khan if something like that lined up so I find it hard to believe Khan is gonna make any moves til we know what Manny is doing.