ESPN first take showing no respect to Crawford

[Motorcity Cobra]

You act like Linares didn't get stopped by Juan Carlos Salgado, Antonio DeMarco and Sergio Thompson in a few rounds, .

And Gary Russell Jr. was known by the wannabe Eastern Euro crowd as "T.B.A. Killer," but as soon as Lomachenko beat him he became the second coming of Salvador Sanchez. Russell Jr. hasn't done much since losing to Lomachenko either. Y'all just like to elevate him like David Lemieux because Golovkin beat him.

And Rigondeaux, . An ancient little dude moving up two divisions, okay.

Exactly And Indongo took that fight on short notice. What they don't admit is that Crawford ruined Gamboa, Indongo, & Postol. Taylor is the favorite going into the 140 tournament and he went life and death with a fighter Crawford dominated. Jeff Horn win over Pac is 10x's better than Pedraza's win over Beltran. And even if you don't think Horn won his performance against Pac was 10x's better than Pedraza's against Beltran. Walters hadn't fought in a year. Rigo was coming up 2 weight classes and had only fought 1rd in 17 months.

[Bjl12]

Stephen A is Uncle Tom and probably supports Trump

[chrisJS]

Linares was bordering (and firmly in some of them) P4P lists when him & Lomachenko fought. Rigondeaux, yeah go ahead and call him old and ancient yet that old and ancient motherf**ker was in motherf**king TOP FIVE lists going into that fight. When has Bud ever even fought a fringe P4Per?

Gamboa was a fringe p4p player. His inactivity had started to creep in but he was a talent for sure.

That poster picked Rigo to beat Loma though and I'm certain he picked Walters and Russell too (if he knew who Loma was back then) and probably picked Linares.

[187 Proof]

Exactly And Indongo took that fight on short notice. What they don't admit is that Crawford ruined Gamboa, Indongo, & Postol. Taylor is the favorite going into the 140 tournament and he went life and death with a fighter Crawford dominated. Jeff Horn win over Pac is 10x's better than Pedraza's win over Beltran. And even if you don't think Horn won his performance against Pac was 10x's better than Pedraza's against Beltran. Walters hadn't fought in a year. Rigo was coming up 2 weight classes and had only fought 1rd in 17 months.

Yeah, I'm done wasting time on these idiots if they say Linares was P4P top 10. For what, beating Anthony Crolla and Kevin Mitchell?

Good thread though, I feel you. ESPN had a whole different attitude when Lomachenko was fighting Marriaga coming up in weight off of a loss to fight Lomachenko.

[Southpawology]

What has crawford done? What elite fighters has he beaten?

[NearHypnos]

Exactly And Indongo took that fight on short notice. What they don't admit is that Crawford ruined Gamboa, Indongo, & Postol. Taylor is the favorite going into the 140 tournament and he went life and death with a fighter Crawford dominated. Jeff Horn win over Pac is 10x's better than Pedraza's win over Beltran. And even if you don't think Horn won his performance against Pac was 10x's better than Pedraza's against Beltran. Walters hadn't fought in a year. Rigo was coming up 2 weight classes and had only fought 1rd in 17 months.

Gamboa also hadn’t fought in a year.

Nor was he ranked in the fight he had a year prior...a fight he probably shouldnt have won if you remember (Perez) with the bogus KD given to him and the one not called for perez in the I think 12th round.

That Gamboa? Who looked like Gavin Rees fighting Broner and was outsized on some Sadam ali/Munguia levels?

Loma has the better resume no contest. Bud is as good a talent, but he’s not putting in the work. You cant be p4p#1 if youre not the best in your division or have done anything to even be in the argument. Loma isn’t #1 either for that matter and Im not sure beating Mikey would be enough to usurp Cashnelo from #1. But he should rightfully be ranked above Crawford based on merit.

[satiev1]

The fighter that moved up 2 weight classes. Ok.....

Yup the p4p fighter that lomo fought. LMAO. He moved up 8 lbs. You're a joke.

[Motorcity Cobra]

Gamboa also hadn’t fought in a year.

Nor was he ranked in the fight he had a year prior...a fight he probably shouldnt have won if you remember (Perez) with the bogus KD given to him and the one not called for perez in the I think 12th round.

That Gamboa? Who looked like Gavin Rees fighting Broner and was outsized on some Sadam ali/Munguia levels?

Loma has the better resume no contest. Bud is as good a talent, but he’s not putting in the work. You cant be p4p#1 if youre not the best in your division or have done anything to even be in the argument. Loma isn’t #1 either for that matter and Im not sure beating Mikey would be enough to usurp Cashnelo from #1. But he should rightfully be ranked above Crawford based on merit.

Bud cleaned out a division. Then when he moved up everybody said the division became competitive. That's how dominant he is

[Motorcity Cobra]

Yup the p4p fighter that lomo fought. LMAO. He moved up 8 lbs. You're a joke.

8lbs in the lower division isn't the same as 8lbs in higher division. There are weight classes for a reason. You're a clown masquerading as a boxing fan

[NearHypnos]

Bud cleaned out a division. Then when he moved up everybody said the division became competitive. That's how dominant he is

Outside of Prograis nobody is really paying much attention to 140 man lol. And the only people who really cared before was because Bud was there..it was a wasteland otherwise. And Postol wasnt that bad and neither was Indongo. Crawford cant help he didnt have p4p guys there. Crawford was the best at 140 before he even moved to 140, not sure it was ever really in doubt because it was weak. As soon as he said he was moving up we knew it was his because it was open for the taking.


Loma was making boogeymen quit. People though GRJ was going to run through him (dont know WHY), though Walters would murder him, though Rigo would be too skilled (to be fair, I thought Rigo would do well but most people didnt realize how big the difference was)

Hell, Rigo was so dominant at 122 that the division was non existent til he lost and moved up. And he himself was at one point as high as #3 p4p and at about 5 when he lost to Loma. We never called Rigo #1 p4p even after beating the #2-4 p4p fighter.

Fact is, Bud has never faced a p4p guy. He got Gamboa who was ALMOST a p4p guy. Everyone in the top 3-4 has fought AND beat a top 5 p4p guy except Bud.