Difference between boxing on ESPN and boxing on FOX

[killakali]

What quality fights does Top Rank have on ESPN coming up? And not bum showcase fights like Crawford vs Benavidez or Lomachenko vs Pedraza.

A bum showcase as you call if of Loma vs Pedraza is no different than Mikey Garcia being showcased in a unification vs a bum in Robert Easter and it showed in the fight by not being competitive.

Berchelt-Roman is a very good fight. Saucedo vs Hooker is a very competitive good fight. So will Ramirez-Hart2.


Don't get me wrong. I like most of SHOs scheduled too but these top level fighters end up in mismatches. If you call Loma Pedraza a bum showcase fight then you are calling Spence vs an inactive Peterson a bum showcase and it showed in the fight. No difference at all.

[killakali]

@ learning Spanish just to watch a boxing show

Where did you draw that conclusion LMAAOOOO? There are a lot more benefits of learning spanish than watching tv. But being able to understand the chicas on novelas is another benefit about watching tv lol. But if you can't understand the other benefits of knowing a foreign language I can't help you.

[KTFOKING]

Nothing wrong with Lomachenko/Pedraza as it will be a unification bout, but we just know Pedraza's level and Lomachenko is levels above it. But it is fine. Crawford vs Benavidez though? Yeah, that one sucks but TR doesn't have many other WWs in their stable.

Hart vs Ramirez two is meh to me. First fight was okay but would rather not see this again.

Hooker vs Saucedo should be good for sure as should Berchelt vs Roman.

Then you had the BS Uzcategui fight in Oakland a few weeks back an that was pretty bad.

Top Rank just has too many dates point blank period. Impossible for them not to put on crap main events when they just don't have a deep stable. They went from getting like 6-8 cards a year on HBO to now having to put on 30 cards. Different ball game.

[KTFOKING]

If u are too ignorant not to speak Spanish thats not my problem.

U out here trying to brag about 10 cards a year and u haven’t even heard one fight yet or even know how their studios shows will be or if they even last.

It’s good fox gonna have cards but they haven’t even put one mom time buy card on and u are here hating on espn that has put on several good deeds and trying to fox on a pedestal when they ain’t done **** yet.

Shouldn’t U reserve judgement till there is an actual product to judge lmao?

We got a nut rider in here. I hope they are good cards but they are starting off in the wrong foot by starting on 12/22 which has always been a slow tv week.

Have u enjoyed Rafael’s show or In this Corner? How about Teddy’s show in espn2? Is fox’s studio show better than all or any of them? Give me your honest opinion.

We know Los Golpes is a great show. Give us your honest opinion on FOXs studio show? Which host is your favorite?

Huh? Because one can't speak Spanish they are ignorant? Did you really say that? Not easy to learn another language, and really you have plenty of Mexicans that can't speak Spanish. Bad point.

[KTFOKING]

idiot alert. Scipio sticks his head up his arse again. Fs1 are low budget shows. Espn has 18 on espn plus 12 on espn+ plus 24 international cards on espn+ If u really wanna go there. Lmaoooo.

So 54 cards vs 22. Nice try though

Won't be low budget now with the new deal. They can absolutely put on cards like the one ESPN+ put up with Uzcategui vs bum a few weeks ago. Will they be FOX caliber or SHO caliber? Of course not, but there should be some cards that are really really solid. A lot of them will be able to be on the level of some of the ESPN and ESPN+ cards for sure.

[GhostofDempsey]

I am frustrated by ESPN, particularly ESPN+ which has to be streamed. Why can't it just be it's own channel on cable, make it easier for fans to watch? Not surprising though, ESPN has always treated boxing as the ugly stepchild of sports. They are too busy providing political commentary and worshiping overrated athletes from other sports and their diva behavior.

[KTFOKING]

I am frustrated by ESPN, particularly ESPN+ which has to be streamed. Why can't it just be it's own channel on cable, make it easier for fans to watch? Not surprising though, ESPN has always treated boxing as the ugly stepchild of sports. They are too busy providing political commentary and worshiping overrated athletes from other sports and their diva behavior.

Streaming is certainly part of the present and will definitely be part of the future. Have to accept it. Do I agree with those folks that think televisions will be gone in 20 years? Hell no, but no doubt the younger generation is streaming damn near everything.

And ESPN+ is far from only boxing. They want as much live sports content as possible.

[N/A]

FS1 isn’t on basic cable on most cable providers

Yes it is.

and definitely not dish or directv.

That is satellite, not cable

Yet my espn+ at $4.00 a month is less than half the price of Showtime. Nice try though. 54>22

ESPN+ is $4.99. Showtime is $8.99. ESPN+ gets you 12 Top Rank shows and Showtime gets you 12 PBC shows. Yes, ESPN+ gets you 24 lower level international shows, but those appeal to a very very small percentage of US fight fans. And if we're talking about exposure, the exposure on ESPN+ is nearly nonexistent. Nothing beats the exposure on Fox.

[Motorcity Cobra]

Where did you draw that conclusion LMAAOOOO? There are a lot more benefits of learning spanish than watching tv. But being able to understand the chicas on novelas is another benefit about watching tv lol. But if you can't understand the other benefits of knowing a foreign language I can't help you.

You sound like AJ telling the fans to train to fight Wilder

[asgarth]

I hate to say it but ESPN boxing have ****** pretty badly nowadays. The Fox boxing cards are at least 10X better in my opinion and are far more entertaining as well.

can you back that up?

If ESPN also includes ESPN+ than they have much better content than FOX this year.

This year they had:
Lomachenko Vs Linares, Ramirez Vs Orozco, Beltran Vs Moses and Pedraza, Murata Vs Brant, Lomachenko Vs Pedraza, Diaz Vs Ito, Pacquiao Vs Matthysse, Saucdeo Vs Zappavigna, Crawford Vs Horn and Benavidez, Ramirez Vs Imam, Valdez Vs Quigg, Magdaleno Vs Dogboe.

Gilberto Ramirez has been in garbage fights though and the last one with Ancajas and Uzcatagui was also very lackluster. Dont care too much about the second crawford and lomachenko fights, but they still feature 2 p4p fighters.

PBC FOX had Alexander Vs ... Ortiz and Alexander vs ....... Berto.
Dirrell Vs Han and Plant Vs One-legged Medina. At least they offered Quillin Vs J'Leon Love lol.
Oh... Washington Vs NoFire.