Comments Thread For: Hearn Explains Frustrations With Joshua vs. Wilder Situation

[CommanderVander]

Eddie Hearn has to be the crappiest promoter in the world if he needs 6 months to promote a fight.
Of course he'd have no problem promoting Canelo in December with only 2 months notice....

There is no reason he can't wait until the December 1st fight, negotiate a deal for the next month plus, and then still have 3 months to promote the fight with Wilder or someone else.

He's just trying to set false deadlines so he can pretend he made an effort and then move on.

[JWHardin]

Someone please enlighten me on why a Joshua vs Wilder fight needs to be signed before December 1st? I know Joshua signed to fight Wlad before his fight, but as far as I know when a championship fight is coming up, it is VERY rare to negotiate much less sign a fight before-hand like this?

The ONLY reason I can think of is that if the WBC title is on the line, VADA testing is required as soon as the fight is signed, not the questionable UKAD, like Joshua is used to. Does AJ need time to clean up?

[Scipio2009]

So has every other promoter who's had a fighter with a name big enough to be a his cash cow. DLH has Canelo. Haymons had plenty - most notably Mayweather. Arum's had plenty as well over the years, Ali and Pac-man stand out. Don King had Tyson among countless others. Every single one of these promoters over the years has done their very best to freeze as many people not affiliated with them out of the big time as they possibly could. If you're gonna slate one you may as well slate them all otherwise you just come off as prejudiced.

Except that Hearn already did a dirty deal with the camp he's now asking to sit down again to talk with him in the middle of camp for their big fight.

Showed that the money was bigger in the US for the fight, still accepted fighting in the UK, accepted short money to simply have the fight next, only to have the WBA magically call a 24-hr window, with Hearn trying to the lock in all of those concessions for a fight that was now 8 months after the fact, with Wilder no longer controlling US TV and Anthony Joshua as the only one with the written rematch.

Wilder's camp has no reason to do Hearn any favors after that, so yeah, Wilder's camp is going to wait until Wilder-Fury is done with, and then look to see if they can close the talks for the date that Joshua already took money from Wembley for.

If the deal can't get done for April, both fighters move on and look to try to lock in the fight for the Fall (with the Wembley deal done, logic would say that you'd open the event up to the highest bidder to host).

[Jblo]

"I mean, I don't have to sign the fight before December 1st but we need to make some kind of headway because we know how much work there is to do."

To all the people saying why would they sign a fight before Dec 1.. Well they don’t have to. Just start negotiation so come Dec 1 the deal has been reached and fight can be signed ASAP. If they refuse to even meet to just “NEGOTIATE” a fight then they are ducking!

Why eddie and Joshua didnt take 50 million an wilder ducking cause he not taking 15 or a revised 20 mil at most

[N/A]

To all the people saying why would they sign a fight before Dec 1.. Well they don’t have to. Just start negotiation so come Dec 1 the deal has been reached and fight can be signed ASAP.

Wilder's leverage entirely depends on how well the PPV does. His team is going to be 100% focused on making this PPV a success, not negotiating a different fight, when those negotiations are pointless anyway until they know how well the PPV does.

[Jblo]

Eddie Hearn has to be the crappiest promoter in the world if he needs 6 months to promote a fight.
Of course he'd have no problem promoting Canelo in December with only 2 months notice....

There is no reason he can't wait until the December 1st fight, negotiate a deal for the next month plus, and then still have 3 months to promote the fight with Wilder or someone else.

He's just trying to set false deadlines so he can pretend he made an effort and then move on.

I couldnt have said it better myself. He cant run long the governing body of boxing has took notice and the wbc will be mandating a fight between the two after the winner dec. 1. I smell a purse bid... spit on that contract wilder wait it out you'll get a fair cut on a purse bid

[N/A]

To be fair, a deal doesn't have to be signed and sealed by 01st Dec but Finkel could at least take a look at the contract and give a quick response along the lines of;
point 1 - yes
point 2 - yes
point 3 - improve your offer
point 4 - not a chance

How can Finkel possibly know what's acceptable until he sees how well the PPV does?

And why would Finkel want to waste his time worrying about a different fight instead of devoting his energy to making sure the PPV is a success?

[Kilrain]

Clearly doesn't need to be made in "3 or 4 weeks", that's Hearn trying to fool people who don't know better.

This fight is massive already, been talked about for over a year and as such it won't need a ton of promotion, if the Wembley date is April 13 as long as the fight is signed by, say, February 13 it's gonna be massive. That still leaves 8 weeks, and let's face it Joshua will have already started camp probably by mid January for the date regardless.

So essentially there's 10 weeks to get it done in the post Wilder-Fury negotiation period (Dec 1-Feb 13). That leaves 2 months of promotion, which is more than enough for a 4-belt, UNDISPUTED heavyweight title fight between unbeaten champions coming off victories over top opponents (Fury and Povetkin).

Wilder's team obviously want some leverage and want to beat Fury first, so that, depending on the nature of the victory, they can squeeze more money out of the pot and get a better deal for Wilder.

Hearn is trying to lock them into a deal pre-Dec 1, as he knows an impressive Wilder win earns him a better payday. Let's face it, Joshua's recent performances haven't been great. He's still the A-side because UK casuals would pay to watch him take a ****, but Wilder strengthens his position with a resounding victory over Fury who is, after all, better than any name on Joshua's resume.

I love the indignation of Hearn after he initially refused to offer Wilder a cut of the PPV, offering him an insulting flat fee. Straight out of the Mayweather school of negotiating.

[uppercut510]

so easy to see through what hearn is trying to do in this situation. and hes a business man so I get it but to see his supporters support his every move and contradiction is whats so annoying, last week they stood firm on hearns "fight must be signed before Dec 1" stance, now look

[Roberto Vasquez]

It's obvious Wilder is scared of AJ. You only have to look at his record and who he is fighting next. A past-his-best-weak-punching-Fury. The Fury fight is all about increasing his share of the purse for when he finally gets balls and takes the AJ fight.

If you look at AJ's record you will see he hasn't ducked anybody. He even took a huge risk against Klitchsko. Why did Wilder never fight Klitschko before AJ did?? Wilder has never fought a proper dangerous opponent in 40 fights. AJ has fought everybody in under 20 fights.