Comments Thread For: Hearn Makes "Improved" Wilder-Joshua Offer, Asks For Meeting

[SeGoodland]

Not really. Wilder mentioned he wanted Wlad, Finkel said he would have two quick defenses then a Wlad match. Wlad lost to Fury after Wilder’s first defense so I don’t consider it a duck. Finkel likely should have chosen his words better, but since Wlad and Wilder were both under the same stable, he likely didn’t think the words would be ever brought up (likely because he didn’t expect Wlad to lose to Fury)

But mainly, I think it’s damage control. The quote is years old and never been even mentioned to Wilder. The AJ saga/quotes were just him digging himself a bigger hole whenever a mic was put in his face.

Ok, I'll rephrase, Finkel ducked Klitschko for Wilder.

Look, it doesn't matter how old the comments are, even if they are 1 day old, its still hypocritical of Finkel and Wilder to call Joshua a coward considering what was said on that article and what has happened since!

Fury is the same - a while back, he was praising Joshua to high heaven! Now he's a bum or a ****house

Like I said, AJ didn't cover himself in glory but both Wilder and Fury have been referring to Joshua so much because they want to make that fight because that's the real prize of Wilder/Fury.

[Bronx2245]

F**k a meeting! Wilder vs. Fury! Go do you! Nobody worried about AJ and Dillan Whyte over here! COWARDS!

[Ake-Dawg]

I believe he specified a percentage. At this stage Team Wilder only have to acknowledge it and say we may/ may not be interested. However , you are on the right path let’s meet to prove we are interested in the fight but please appreciate we are totally focussed on 1st Dec.or something to that effect

If they can come to an agreement about the splits within a month everything will fall into place.

Personally I can appreciate the situation Wilder is in and although I don’t believe it will be a PPV world beater it may very well be so to sign his worth prior to the fight is a bit premature from a Business perspective but nevertheless they have to be in the process of negotiating other matters I.e rematch

Do they really have to meet? Does it have to be a public ordeal? Can Finkel just call Hearn or email him back and say...thanks, glad you sent a percentage offer but I think the Dec numbers will warrant a much higher number.

[Outwest Exp 355]

Parkers got wins over Takam, Ruiz Jr and H Fury.

Povetkins got Chambers Chagaev, Huck, Charr, Takam, Perez, Duhaupas, Hammer

Who has Ortiz (Wilders best win) got Jennings and Tiny Thompson and he's supposed to have a resume 10 years ahead of Parker due to age. Also if you want to talk about Parker looking crap atleast he was stepping up. Whats Ortiz excuse against Allen he missed all night and even got rocked at one point.

Ortiz might even be better but he hasn't done much to prove it if he is.

Parker’s best wins are controversial at best. You can say he won but his performance was far from great.

[FreezeIzGawd]

Right send an 15 million dollar guaranteed offer that has a 60/40 split AJ's way with a REMATCH clause included.

THERE WE ARE DONE

[Scipio2009]

Lol what did I lie about? You guy's just love to call people a liar just for fun.

'Any objective look at the resumes of Deontay Wilder and Anthony Joshua'

You list 2 guys Which AJ beat 1/2 as the lowest level (I'd argue Stiverne belongs here but forget about that for a second)

Then you have your middle level AJ beat 5/6, Wilder 2/6

And an elite level AJ beat 2/3 and Klitchsko really should be a level above this (I know he's old but so is Ortiz and just compare their legacys and experience and even look at the difference in the shape they came into the fights)

But by your own analysis 8/11 of these wins are AJs and 4/11 are Wilders. Do yourself a favour and look up the dicitonary definition of objectively.

Charles Martin was MAYBE a back-end top 30 heavyweight when he got the call to fight Glazkov, and Martin got the IBF belt without landing a meaningful punch.

Joseph Parker had basically fought no one worth fighting when he was set up for his shot.

Wladimir Klitschko looked like utter **** in the Fury fight, sat at home for two years, and then fought Joshua.

The Stiverne that fought Wilder smokes Martin and smokes Parker, and that's without any real question.

To then try and conflate an apparent British stoppage early in his career, as if it was an example of Stiverne getting the **** beat out of him by a bus, is even more foolish

[Oshio]

Hahahahaha I like the last statement of the article, "to find out who the second best HW is"

[Scipio2009]

Almost

Right send an 15 million dollar guaranteed offer that has a 60/40 split AJ's way with a REMATCH clause included.

THERE WE ARE DONE

Who gets the US TV?

The one-way rematch is still a bull**** term that was added at the end of the first breakdown, but if the belief is that Wilder is traveling to the UK, to fight in front of a UK ref and 3 BBBoC refs, with Joshua as the only party with contractual recourse if **** happens, AND a TV situation in Wilder's own home market that explicitly benefits Eddie Hearn, you're kidding yourself.

[SthPaw]

It’s fairly obvious now (or should be) to anyone with one or more brain cells that Hearn is just resorting to damage control.

This whole time he has been awkward and slippery. AJ messed up a couple of times so he promptly got muzzled each time. Hearns Dad revealed their hand by suggesting waiting two years (anyone that thinks Hearn wouldn’t/doesn’t take his fathers advice on promotion is a moron).


Anyway...Eddie knows two things:

He knows Wilder hasn’t had a ‘big’ fight and therefore is aware this gives him some right to treat him as such in regards to numbers. He knows Wilder needs a big fight and Eddie is playing ‘chase me, chase me’ by saying he wants it but also offering BS.
Eddie also knows that Joshua has a legion of casual fans that see the odd YouTube/instagram clip and chew up any article on SkySports with Joshua in its headline, and they, will believe anything.

It’s gotten old, really old and really fast. Boxing fans where patient beyond belief with May-Pac being dragged out...we don’t want it again. Everyone has got sick of this one already and it’s not even been a year. Only blind diehards/fanboys/casuals in support of either side would actually defend and further a case for the rights and wrongs in such petty shít. It is media damage control, don’t feed into it.

[Jax teller]

Charles Martin was MAYBE a back-end top 30 heavyweight when he got the call to fight Glazkov, and Martin got the IBF belt without landing a meaningful punch.

Joseph Parker had basically fought no one worth fighting when he was set up for his shot.

Wladimir Klitschko looked like utter **** in the Fury fight, sat at home for two years, and then fought Joshua.

The Stiverne that fought Wilder smokes Martin and smokes Parker, and that's without any real question.

To then try and conflate an apparent British stoppage early in his career, as if it was an example of Stiverne getting the **** beat out of him by a bus, is even more foolish

But we agree AJ has a better resume now just from your list of fighters?

Fury stank the fight out and made Klitschko look naff and had beaten him mentaly before they got in the ring because thats what Fury does. Klitschko was visibly in a better place mentally for AJ.

The same Stiverne that couldn't outbox Wilder who considered is one of the worst boxers (in terms of boxing ability) and was outboxed by the likes of Washington and Spzilka, would smoke Parker?

You still have to give the ref a reason for an early stoppage i.e. taking serious punishment, even if you weather it your still getting a whooping.

What the facc did Wilder do to get the title shot?

Give your dealer a tip FFS.