50 million guaranteed

[Jax teller]

Was Deontays offer realistic?

For Wilder to have got the lowest flat fee offered to him (12.5mil) the fight would have had to make 75 mil (16%).
For a fight purse up to 150 million Wilders split would be less than 30%.
Surely he would have been better off asking for a 25-30% split and more likely to secure the fight?

[Tyistall]

No the offer was not real. That's why Wilder's team refused to meet on it. You don't do business like that. Wilder's team is crap and that's why he still makes 1 million per fight and it's also the reason the Fury fight has no venue or network yet and the fight is 2 months away haha. Also, there is no way to tell what the numbers for an AJ/Wilder fight will be so it's premature to say that it will do 100 million or more. The AJ/Klitschko fight didn't even do that much so how could one with Wilder, who has never been on PPV and can't fill up an arena, somehow do better?

[sunny31]

I'm over the negotiations, but I did try to make this point a few months ago, and I just got my head bit off. This has the same feel to past negotiations with other fighters, where team Joshua has been cast in the position of the "avoiders"

Wilder has done a good job of shouting a lot and making lots of noise about "ducking" and "dodging", and as a result of this rhetoric all of a sudden his own pay days have gone up and he is gathering some momentum within boxing circles. A lot more people are now aware of him since his name has become attached to Joshua's. Make of that what you will.

As far as the offer goes, it never made sense at all. This fight doesn't generate that kind of money, even the threads on here, when people are honest with themselves this fight would struggle to cross 500k ppv buys currently in the US. I was half intrigued for the fight to go ahead to see how they came up with the money, or whether they were just cutting off their nose to spite their face. I guess we will never know.

For the record, I think Team Joshua have done the right thing not giving up homefield advantage. He would make that money in 2-3 fights anyway, he made that quote and everyone jumped on it, which I guess is fair after Team Wilder made the 50 mill offer, but I'm still sceptical.

[uppercut510]

No the offer was not real. That's why Wilder's team refused to meet on it. You don't do business like that. Wilder's team is crap and that's why he still makes 1 million per fight and it's also the reason the Fury fight has no venue or network yet and the fight is 2 months away haha. Also, there is no way to tell what the numbers for an AJ/Wilder fight will be so it's premature to say that it will do 100 million or more. The AJ/Klitschko fight didn't even do that much so how could one with Wilder, who has never been on PPV and can't fill up an arena, somehow do better?

While Joshua was initially skeptical of the high offer, Hearn confirmed that it's legitimate and the money is there.

Even with $50 million on the table, Joshua is willing to make less money in order to face Wilder in the UK.

If Wilder wins, then Joshua is willing to make the rematch in the United States.

"It's the general opinion of myself, AJ and Rob McCracken [Joshua's trainer] that because of the status of AJ in the fight and what we've built over here in the U.K. that we should try and get it over here because he has earned the right for that fight over here," Hearn told Nick Parkinson.

"If Wilder wins, the rematch can be over there in America. We are going back and forth with talks at the moment and I'm confident we can make that fight. AJ appreciates he might not make as much money by fighting in the U.K. but realises that Wilder should be coming to the U.K. to fight first."

Joshua has grown accustomed to having massive crowds at his events, which recently range from 76-90,000 fans packing a stadium.

He doesn't like the idea of having his biggest fight before a watered down crowd of British fans.

"AJ asked me how many British fans could get tickets if the fight was in America and could get over and I said about 6,000 and that's after we have done 250,000 in three fights and it doesn't seem right," Hearn said.

"He's keen to do the fight in the U.K. and from Rob's point of view it's an advantage. If it's in September it gives us the ability to go outside and we would have to consider Cardiff [the Principality Stadium], Wembley, the Olympic Stadium, Twickenham and Old Trafford. AJ wants it in London preferably."

[uppercut510]

https://www.boxingscene.com/joshua-hearn-stand-firm-wilder-fight-uk--128489

[uppercut510]

Its already been proven that the $50mil was a legit offer, you guys continue to bring up how broke wilder is and how he only makes 1.2mil a fight, etc... these things have nothing to do with the fact that aj asked for and was offered $50mil. Just move on from it. Hearn talked him into declining and going silent for almost 3 months then popping back on social media hanging upside down. They declined the offer and never agreed to the money amount therefore there was never a serious meeting over it. The basis of their decline was they wanted home field advantage in the UK. its okay guys; it happened please move on from this. No amount of lying to yourselves and creating a false narrative will allow this to go away. You all have a decent champ and im happy for you but please calm down and STOP.

[Tyistall]

Wilder is not a promoter, so he can't "offer" 50 million especially when he makes 1 million per fight. And if the offer was serious, then the two teams should have sat down and worked on a deal. Wilder's team said "say yes or there is no deal" so Hearn said no way, which he should have said. That's not how you do business especially when it is a big fight like this one. If Wilder was so confident, he would sign the deal, make 15 million, beat AJ and get all the belts. That way he can call all the shots the next fight. But he wants retirement money on this which is why I know he doesn't think he can really win. The reason Wilder only gets 1 million per fight compared to AJ's 20 million, is because he fights bums. Even the Fury fight should not be happening because Fury is not 100%, but then again that's why Wilder is so keen to fight him right now. Wilder is a fraud and you idiots are ****** for following him.

[Motorcity Cobra]

Was Deontays offer realistic?

For Wilder to have got the lowest flat fee offered to him (12.5mil) the fight would have had to make 75 mil (16%).
For a fight purse up to 150 million Wilders split would be less than 30%.
Surely he would have been better off asking for a 25-30% split and more likely to secure the fight?

Haymon just did around a $400 mil deal with Showtime and FOX. That $50 mil is a drop in the bucket.

Eddie supposed did a billion dollar deal but he can't match the $50 mil.

I think we know who was serious and who wasn't

[Luilun]

For being greedy Wilder is going to lose to Fury

[abracada]

Was Deontays offer realistic?

For Wilder to have got the lowest flat fee offered to him (12.5mil) the fight would have had to make 75 mil (16%).
For a fight purse up to 150 million Wilders split would be less than 30%.
Surely he would have been better off asking for a 25-30% split and more likely to secure the fight?

It would crack 1.5 million buys at - $50.

That’s $75m

Sellout of a 10,000 stadium at $150 per seat.

That’s $1.5m

Sponsership deals, UK and USA probably about $50m

Gross revenue probably about $130m.

$50m is about right.