Does Ggg deserve top 20 spot at 160 on all time scale?

[Boxing Goat]

Keep ducking me boy

Ducking what? ******ity? Count me as a duck then.

[Redd Foxx]

Only in GennadyCUCK Land can "fans" say every other fighter "ducked" their guy (weird possessive homo****** stuff honestly).

Meanwhile "their" guy only fought at 160. He demanded/required WW's and JMW's fight him at 160 or there was no fight...and those guys were ducking. Canelo and Cotto were accused of ducking for years...hell both of those guys (and Brook) offered to fight @ CW of 155-157...and GennadyCUCKS say "requesting/requiring 157 is MW...so it's a DUCK to not fight at 160".

If 155-160 is MW (like GennadyCUCKS suggest) than why couldn't GennadyCUCK take on real challenges in Cotto and Canelo? Oh, I know why:



So while I envy Gennady on taking a stance against something in boxing which is bigger than himself, CW's. I cannot respect his complete hypocrisy:

- Refuses any/all CW for smaller fighters (Canelo, Cotto, Brook, etc.)
- Requires CW for *some* (Andre Ward, cough) bigger fighters...even though he was willing to fight Froch and JCC Jr. at 168
- Requires opponents to wear gloves of his choosing
- Requires opponents to let Abel wrap their hands
- Requires selection of judges...only to blame THEIR SELECTED JUDGES (hi Dave Moretti) after the fight doesn't go "their way"...even though Canelo did exactly what Abel asked of him
- Requires opponents to not use Mexican "meat" in fights...and Canelo's meat is hhhhhhuuuuuuuugggggeeeeee



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I've rounded up most of the usual suspects who probably have autism or a deficit of some kind - and that's okay. Just get help.

And I can take all ya'll on at once cause none of ya'll make any damn sense lmfao

Don't know WTF this^ dim muther***er is ranting about this time but I've had enough of his moronic posts and I don't need to be shout tagged by this raging inbred. Time to visit the ignore list.

[Bjl12]

Don't know WTF this^ dim muther***er is ranting about this time but I've had enough of his moronic posts and I don't need to be shout tagged by this raging inbred. Time to visit the ignore list.

Wrecked boy

[Chuckguy]

What's his best win again?

If you can name 20 better MW then you would have an arguement fists

[Fists_of_Fury]

If you can name 20 better MW then you would have an arguement fists

In no particular ranking order:

1. Roy Jones Jr.
2. Sugar Ray Robinson
3. Bernard Hopkins
4. Sergio Martinez
5.Marvin Hagler
6.Carlos Monzon
7.Sugar Ray Leonard
8.Tommy Hearns
9.Roberto Duran
10. Iran Barkley
11. Harry Greb
12. Stanley Ketchell
13. Charley Burley
14. Michael Nunn
15. Mike McCallum
16. Holman Williams
17. Gene Fulmer
18. Jack Dempsey
19. James Toney
20. Rocky Graziano
21. Toney Zale
22. Rodrigo Valdaz
23. Jake Lamotta
24. Emile Griffith
25. **** Tiger
26. Kelly Pavlik
27. Jermaine Taylor
28. Oscar De La Hoya
29. Felix Trinidad
30. Micky Walker
31. Tiger Flowers
32. Bob Fitzsimmons
33. Canelo "Real Mexican Style Without the Beef" Alvarez

I can still keep going but you should get the point by now.

[Citizen Koba]

In no particular ranking order:

1. Roy Jones Jr.
2. Sugar Ray Robinson
3. Bernard Hopkins
4. Sergio Martinez
5.Marvin Hagler
6.Carlos Monzon
7.Sugar Ray Leonard
8.Tommy Hearns
9.Roberto Duran
10. Iran Barkley
11. Harry Greb
12. Stanley Ketchell
13. Charley Burley
14. Michael Nunn
15. Mike McCallum
16. Holman Williams
17. Gene Fulmer
18. Jack Dempsey
19. James Toney
20. Rocky Graziano
21. Toney Zale
22. Rodrigo Valdaz
23. Jake Lamotta
24. Emile Griffith
25. **** Tiger
26. Kelly Pavlik
27. Jermaine Taylor
28. Oscar De La Hoya
29. Felix Trinidad
30. Micky Walker
31. Tiger Flowers
32. Bob Fitzsimmons
33. Canelo "Real Mexican Style Without the Beef" Alvarez

I can still keep going but you should get the point by now.

Oscar? An atg MW? He fought there twice and in the eyes of the world lost 'em both. His 'big' MW win (according to their judges) was Felix fkn Sturm ffs - the guy who lost to Danny Geale. Trinidad? Jones - who did almost nothing at MW except beat a very green Hopkins.... look these are all great (and probably ATG) fighters, but not greats at Middleweight, which is what the thread is about.

[Fists_of_Fury]

Oscar? An atg MW? He fought there twice and in the eyes of the world lost 'em both. His 'big' MW win (according to their judges) was Felix fkn Sturm ffs - the guy who lost to Danny Geale. Trinidad? Jones - who did almost nothing at MW except beat a very green Hopkins.... look these are all great (and probably ATG) fighters, but not greats at Middleweight, which is what the thread is about.

I put a few trolls in there . Can't deny the rest though. And I can still add more names ahead of the bum beater hype job.

[BLASTER1]

I like Triple G and I think he is a very entertaining fighter. He is in decline and that's obvious when you see his legs are not getting him where he needs to be. The legs begin to fade on ALL fighters and that limits their offensive outage and also their ability to absorb punishment.
I like Triple G in the top thirty maybe even top twenty-five.
I evaluate him by his performances featuring power, style and willingness. It would be great to fight ATG fighters but if you know what your looking at you can get an idea of how he would fare against men from the past.

People still cry babying about the Canelo vs GGG fight....christ sakes just enjoy a good competitive fight and move on.

Ray

That's the most level headed response to a GGG thread from you since the re-match.
Well done Ray.
You actually arent biased 100% of the time towards Gennady.

[Citizen Koba]

I put a few trolls in there . Can't deny the rest though. And I can still add more names ahead of the bum beater hype job.

Meh. Myself I think Golovkin will end up somewhere in the bottom end of the top 20 or just outside when the dust settles, but I'll leave that to the historians of the future. Folk lack a proper perspective until years after a fighter retires. Simple fact is that the vast majority of fighters on most guys records are of the same sort of calibre as the 'bums' (sic) that Golovkin has fought, but most ATGs also have at least one exceptional fighter on there too. Golovkin lacks a signature win (at least officially), but on the flip side has longevity and consistency - which do actually matter in my book because even fighters who aren't really atgs at all can land a great win on a good night (or an opponents off night) or due to a fortunate styles match up - like Pavlik or Taylor - neither of whom I consider great MWs (and in fact both very deeply flawed) despite each having better single wins than GGG.

[LetOutTheCage]

Don't know WTF this^ dim muther***er is ranting about this time but I've had enough of his moronic posts and I don't need to be shout tagged by this raging inbred. Time to visit the ignore list.

Yeah he's an incoherent moron who's full of hate. Best just to add him to ignore list.