Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: Canelo-GGG, Mayweather, Munguia, More

[MidWestBrawler]

The dude commits Libel every time he talks saying Canelo used PEDs

once you have popped hot (2 x in Canelo's case) public speculation on past fights is fair game.

[Bjl12]

once you have popped hot (2 x in Canelo's case) public speculation on past fights is fair game.

Wrong. I hope you don't live by this as youd be liable to get sued. Big time.

WhiteBreadman flat out states Ca$hnelo cheated using PEDs despite Ca$h/GBP pledging innocence since Day 1, citing contaminated Mexican meat.

While some people do NOT like to hear that and refuse to accept that - which is perfectly fine - there is a long documented history of Clenbuterol in Mexican meat. Between prior Mexican boxers popping specifically for Clen, the U17 FIFA tournament, sports orgs like NFL and Olympics explicitly warning their athletes about meat in Mexico...

Couple that with the WADA collecting agency whose Director (WADA Director) suggested Canelos results were..."These values are all within the range of what is expected from meat contamination":

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.the...tary-drug-test

Of course Canelo's clean history (Floyd, GGG1, etc.) as well as his clean hair follicle test and subsequent clean GGG2 testing with an even better 2nd fight performance...intentional PED use seems less and less likely.

As I said, if I had something worth losing (like this revenue producing boxing site/forum) I'd be careful the way in which I accuse athletes because - by definition - WhiteBreadman is committing Libel.

[MidWestBrawler]

WhiteBreadman flat out states Ca$hnelo cheated using PEDs despite Ca$h/GBP pledging innocence since Day 1, citing contaminated Mexican meat.

I'd be careful the way in which I accuse athletes because - by definition - WhiteBreadman is committing Libel.

I understand your point of view, now unless you are related to Canelo just be objective for a minute.

He failed a drug test, it doesn't matter if it was an accident or not. They give you a list with all the banned chemicals. As you said it was known that clen was in cattle in MEX. I don't agree with many of the items on the banned list. Clen is not very helpful imo especially with the extreme cramps it can cause.

A fail is a fail and all past fights are now at least up for debate among media like Bread as far as previous use.

Nobody is outright saying they used without proof but there is absolute speculation.

It should not anger you bro, our hero's are not perfect.

[Bjl12]

I understand your point of view, now unless you are related to Canelo just be objective for a minute.

He failed a drug test, it doesn't matter if it was an accident or not. They give you a list with all the banned chemicals. As you said it was known that clen was in cattle in MEX. I don't agree with many of the items on the banned list. Clen is not very helpful imo especially with the extreme cramps it can cause.

A fail is a fail and all past fights are now at least up for debate among media like Bread as far as previous use.

Nobody is outright saying they used without proof but there is absolute speculation.

It should not anger you bro, our hero's are not perfect.

It does not anger me, but it does disappoint. However, Canelo passed his tests against Floyd and Gennady 1.

WhiteBreadman went on to say "Canelo looks less vascular" because his "inside sources" told him Canelo cheated. All objective evidence points to the opposite.

Canelo performed as good or better- physically- in the 2nd fight.

Canelos endurance and stamina were better in the 2nd fight.

Canelo's Clen levels were deemed "consistent with meat contamination" by WADA director. The Gennady 2 drug testing began further out from the fight and tested Canelo while he was still living in Mexico (first time he was tested in Mexico). So if you consider Mexico's meat contamination problems...nothing seems farfetched.

Hell Canelo took a hair test which was clean, but WhiteBreadman got on his Alex Jones **** and suggested it was unreliable because Canelo is a ginger (literally). Hair tests provide MONTHS of drug levels while urine provides WEEKS.

Raw objective data:

Canelo never tested positive before and did random testing at least twice (Floyd and GGG1).

Testing for GGG2 began earlier than against Floyd or GGG1 which resulted in Canelo being tested in Mexico (first time).

Canelo tests positive for trace amounts of Clenbuterol twice, back to back.

Mexico has historical problems with, specifically, Clenbuterol in their meat.

WADA director states Canelos tests are "consistent with meat contamination".

Canelo passes hair follicle test for Clenbuterol.

Hair follicle tests collect information for longer time periods than urine.

Subjective assertions by WhiteBreadman:

My inside sources tell me Canelo juiced.

Canelo looks "less vascular" for rematch

Hair follicle tests are a conspiracy

Canelo is a cheat



WhiteBreadmans statements are derogatory and slander. If someone cared about a random Trump supporting racist he could easily be sued for Libel. Easily

[TonyGe]

It does not anger me, but it does disappoint. However, Canelo passed his tests against Floyd and Gennady 1.

WhiteBreadman went on to say "Canelo looks less vascular" because his "inside sources" told him Canelo cheated. All objective evidence points to the opposite.

Canelo performed as good or better- physically- in the 2nd fight.

Canelos endurance and stamina were better in the 2nd fight.

Canelo's Clen levels were deemed "consistent with meat contamination" by WADA director. The Gennady 2 drug testing began further out from the fight and tested Canelo while he was still living in Mexico (first time he was tested in Mexico). So if you consider Mexico's meat contamination problems...nothing seems farfetched.

Hell Canelo took a hair test which was clean, but WhiteBreadman got on his Alex Jones **** and suggested it was unreliable because Canelo is a ginger (literally). Hair tests provide MONTHS of drug levels while urine provides WEEKS.

Raw objective data:

Canelo never tested positive before and did random testing at least twice (Floyd and GGG1).

Testing for GGG2 began earlier than against Floyd or GGG1 which resulted in Canelo being tested in Mexico (first time).

Canelo tests positive for trace amounts of Clenbuterol twice, back to back.

Mexico has historical problems with, specifically, Clenbuterol in their meat.

WADA director states Canelos tests are "consistent with meat contamination".

Canelo passes hair follicle test for Clenbuterol.

Hair follicle tests collect information for longer time periods than urine.

Subjective assertions by WhiteBreadman:

My inside sources tell me Canelo juiced.

Canelo looks "less vascular" for rematch

Hair follicle tests are a conspiracy

Canelo is a cheat



WhiteBreadmans statements are derogatory and slander. If someone cared about a random Trump supporting racist he could easily be sued for Libel. Easily

Calling Bread a racist because he hold a different viewpoint is a bit extreme don't you think. A lot of people think the guy deliberately took Clen. Personally he was tested for the rematch and passed so you have to give him the benefit of the doubt. What I don't like is that he never apologized to the Golovkin team for screwing up. He didn't have to grovel. All he had to say was he messed up and he apologises for it. Simple and to the point.

[Bjl12]

Calling Bread a racist because he hold a different viewpoint is a bit extreme don't you think. A lot of people think the guy deliberately took Clen. Personally he was tested for the rematch and passed so you have to give him the benefit of the doubt. What I don't like is that he never apologized to the Golovkin team for screwing up. He didn't have to grovel. All he had to say was he messed up and he apologises for it. Simple and to the point.

Bread seriously has something against Mexicans. Comes up in a lot of his posts. He threw Canelo under the bus IMMEDIATELY.

In the same blog he wrote "let's wait for the hearing to see what happened" to "my inside sources say Canelo is a cheat". In that VERY SAME blog post he says "RJJ is the greatest boxer he ever saw".

RJJ is literally a proven PED cheat although he unknowingly used a supplement which contained PED components. And RJJ was linked to BALCO although no concrete evidence ever provided...considering RJJ reached the levels he did through SPEED and POWER - it seems very likely he was juicing. Very likely indeed. And he was juicing..."unknowingly" and those BALCO connections were never proven.

In the same blog WhiteBreadman says "dont blame Canelo yet, let's see the evidence" to "my inside sources want that Mexicant OUT" to "RJJ is greatest boxer I've ever seen". Its literally a joke lmfao