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  • #21
    Originally posted by Slowhand View Post
    I have to disagree. Even rounds should be scored even, less room for controversy by "preference". I saw someone suggest 10-9.5 if the round is too close to be sure.. might work, might not.
    Absolutely, I have never in my life understood the reasoning that it is somehow weak or indecisive to score a round even. Why do so many "experienced" boxing fans believe that there is no such thing as a genuinely even round? They happen all the damn time. Forcing a 10-9 round when a round was evenly contested completely throws off scoring. I personally scored two even rounds in Canelo-Golovkin II and had it 115-115 at the end.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Level37scythe View Post
      Canelo was at 154 when they fought. I gues haters gotta hate though
      Not saying anything regarding the outcome but mayweather vs canelo was in fact at a catch weight of 152 for the weigh-in that is

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      • #23
        Doesn’t matter if Golovkin’s amateur coach scored it for ggg or a draw, the judges saw it as a Canelo victory with the final championship round making the difference!

        Canelo came to fight and made ggg retreat!

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        • #24
          Originally posted by NachoMan View Post
          Absolutely, I have never in my life understood the reasoning that it is somehow weak or indecisive to score a round even. Why do so many "experienced" boxing fans believe that there is no such thing as a genuinely even round? They happen all the damn time. Forcing a 10-9 round when a round was evenly contested completely throws off scoring. I personally scored two even rounds in Canelo-Golovkin II and had it 115-115 at the end.
          Its not weak or indecisive,its just that in the history of pro boxing theres only been like 1 fight that the judges awarded 10-10 rd in(can't remember which one),& thats because under the rules of the 10 pt must system they are required to award 10 pts to 1 of the fighters unless theres a pt deduction,& normally a rd is never a tie,theres ALWAYS something 1 fighter did that can be construed as winning the rd if you're using the 4 criteria judges use aka the rules.

          In this case its as obvious as can be that the close rds should've mostly gone to the fighter landing far more power punches,the cleanest shots,& virtually all of the body shots(again) while also controlling the fight for the duration & also being the one with better defense.
          Last edited by kushking; 09-20-2018, 12:58 PM.

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          • #25
            Not sure why anyone is mad at the outcome or gloating about the outcome. This fight was closer than the first, literally came down to a round difference, the previous one could be argued openly about judging..this one cannot. I lost a grand bet on Golovkin in this fight, plus the cost of flight, hotel, and tickets and I still feel I got my money's worth. Doesn't matter how you feel about either fighter (I have openly stated I have an issue with the clenbuterol situation) you have to respect both men for that showing and be fine with the outcome. I'm down like $3,000 for this fight and I feel I got my money's worth. If they sent me a bill for $500 right now i'd still be ok with it..was well worth it.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Billycostigan View Post
              Not saying anything regarding the outcome but mayweather vs canelo was in fact at a catch weight of 152 for the weigh-in that is
              It was, but the guy I responded to claimed Mayweather didn't want to fight at the full 160 and so he made canelo fight at 152 CW. I meant he was fighting at 154 back in 2012, so while it is true FM didn't want the fight at the full weight, it was only 2lbs that canelo had to lose, not 8, like the hater i responded to would have you believe

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              • #27
                Originally posted by 5000boxing View Post
                Lol true.. well I just call it like I see it... my thing is.. somebody has to lose in order for someone to win. But if you lose.. lose like a champion. If you lose, and run out the ring like a lil hoe.. imma dogg u.. I hate when they disrespect the fans like that.. people waiting to hear if u agree with the decision and u jump out the ring like a bytch.. I was pissed at broner when maidana gave him his first azzwhoopin.. an he ran out the ring like a lil hoe.. im just saying.. fans are fans wither u win or lose.. at least apologize to em.. tell em u will come back even stronger.. something! Don't just dip! Even if its a robbery.. The judges did that shyte.. not the fans who paid to see them.
                I totally disagree.

                GGG and Canelo MORE THAN GAVE THE FANS WHAT THEY PAID FOR, by the way they fought what was probably to be named the best fight of the year, or at least one of the top three. No boxer has any obligation to do interviews either before or after any fight, it is their choice. Their obligation is to perform at their best on the ring AND THAT'S WHAT THEY BOTH DID. What about if he had performed a pathetic boring fight but talked in an interview, would you be happier? That's just ridiculous IMHO. People go see them fight, not talk. If they want talking, they can go watch wrestling, which is actually more talk than action.

                Also, it is way, way better to leave the venue like he did, preventing himself from saying something ****** in the heat of the moment as pissed off as he was, like "I was robbed," or "the judges in Vegas are sellouts, this stinks," or "this PED user always gets his way with the judges." Better to just leave, calm down and then when he comes back to his senses, do grant an interview being more rational, less emotional, so there would be no regrets after the interview.
                Last edited by sterilizer; 09-21-2018, 03:43 AM.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by sterilizer View Post
                  I totally disagree.

                  GGG and Canelo MORE THAN GAVE THE FANS WHAT THEY PAID FOR, by the way they fought what was probably to be named the best fight of the year, or at least one of the top three. No boxer has any obligation to do interviews either before or after any fight, it is their choice. Their obligation is to perform at their best on the ring AND THAT'S WHAT THEY BOTH DID. What about if he had performed a pathetic boring fight but talked in an interview, would you be happier? That's just ridiculous IMHO. People go see them fight, not talk. If they want talking, they can go watch wrestling, which is actually more talk than action.

                  Also, it is way, way better to leave the venue like he did, preventing himself from saying something ****** in the heat of the moment as pissed off as he was, like "I was robbed," or "the judges in Vegas are sellouts, this stinks," or "this PED user always gets his way with the judges." Better to just leave, calm down and then when he comes back to his senses, do grant an interview being more rational, less emotional, so there would be no regrets after the interview.
                  Hmmm.. maybe you're right.. maybe I'm too sensitive as a fan of the sport.. I like to hear everything.. all the pre-fight trash talk.. (it tells me how the fighters feel about each other) the weigh in.. face off.. (mental fight, see who talks the same the day before thr fight, eye to eye contact) then the actual fight.. (I watch and see who can impose their will on the other) and I enjoy the instructions from the corners to the fighters in between rds.. (I like to hear the coach and fighter figure out the problems, and adjust their gameplans) the post fight ringside interview.. (let's me get a non coerced emotional.. passionate response.. raw, and uncut, how the fighter is thinking in the moment, which is what I was complaining about) then finally the post fight press conference.. (now, the fighter has had time to adjust to the idea of losing or winning, an cooled off a bit)
                  Last edited by 5000boxing; 09-21-2018, 05:07 AM.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
                    Preach! Canelo dropped 2lbs., Floyd went up 5 lbs., and he was 36 yrs. old, same as GGG was on Saturday! They forget Floyd beat Oscar and Cotto at the full 154! Oscar was only 34, and Cotto was only 32!
                    Exactly and Floyd is older than Cotto. Also in the Trout weigh in Canelo weighed 153 that's a fact. So he weighed one pound more than the Floyd fight. But dude is trolling

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