The Punch Stats: GGG landed more power punches to Canelo's head, and dominated jabs.

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  • chirorickyp
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    #61
    Great fight; Looked like slow motion to me. Not enough was done to take away a champs title. Close only counts in horse shoes. Both are tough but against a fighter with foot and hand speed with power either one will be beat. Charlo.

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    • chirorickyp
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      #62
      Originally posted by Socialtwinkie
      I just think it's funny how Canelo fans rip on a guy for trying to "score with his own system" when they do the exact same ****.

      Same question asked but no response.

      How much more do body shots count than jabs? Because you're gonna lie to my face and tell me that the guy who lands more body shots ALWAYS wins? Dont ****ing kid me.

      Power punches can lead you to who won the fight, but it's not black and white. There is a TON of grey. But let's do some simpler math, you're telling me that 59 jabs are worth less than 27 power punches?

      59<27

      Yet you dont actually have anything that definitely proves this? And then on top of this, you actually TRUST compubox?

      Please.

      The majority of boxing fans and the boxing writers of America got this right.

      MMABrasil.com.br 115-113 Álvarez
      Dan Rafael
      ESPN.com 114-114 DRAW
      Associated Press 114-114 DRAW
      LA Times 114-114 DRAW
      Wil Esco
      BadLeftHook.com 114-114 DRAW
      Khadrice Rollins
      si.com 114-114 DRAW
      Tony ***nano
      MMA-Today.com 114-114 DRAW
      Alexander K. Lee
      MMAFighting.com 114-114 DRAW
      Phil Murphy
      ESPN 114-114 DRAW
      MMAMania.com 115-116 Golovkin
      Mookie Alexander
      BloodyElbow.com 113-115 Golovkin
      Chris Mannix
      Yahoo! Sports 113-115 Golovkin
      Seán Sheehan
      SevereMMA.com 113-115 Golovkin
      Brian Campbell
      CBSSports.com 112-116 Golovkin
      The Guardian 112-116 Golovkin
      Nathan McCarter
      BleacherReport.com 112-116 Golovkin
      Harold Lederman
      HBO 112-116 Golovkin
      Wesley Riddle
      MMASucka.com 112-116 Golovkin
      Andreas Hale
      Sporting News 112-116 Golovkin
      Most people are fed up. Many did not think the title should have changed hands

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        #63
        Originally posted by Vlad_
        Alright guys,


        Here are the official punch count stats:





        So let's go ahead and break those stats down.


        Canelo landed 46 body shots, GGG landed 6.
        And yet Canelo was the one who slowed down in the second half of the fight, while GGG upped his pace.

        So clearly, Canelo's body shots were not effective.



        Now let's do some basic math.

        Body shots are considered to be power punches, and since they were not effective, let's remove them from the count, and to be fair, we will remove them for both fighters.

        Canelo landed 143 total power punches, minus 46 body punches, leaving Canelo with 97 power punches upstairs.

        GGG landed 116 total power punches, minus 6 body punches (and those 6 were more effective than Canelo's 46), leaving GGG with 110 power punches upstairs.


        So in terms of power punches, GGG landed 13 more power punches to Canelo's head.


        Now when it comes to jabs, Canelo landed 59, while GGG landed 118, effectively doubling Canelo in the Jab department, therefore dominating Canelo in that category.


        Now talking about the face appearance, Canelo is 28, GGG is 36, and skin bruises a lot more at that age. And GGG always had easily marked skin. Also, GGG's cut was from a head clash, while Canelo's cut was from GGG's right hand. And while Canelo hit GGG in the facial area, GGG hit Canelo all over his skull.


        GGG landed a lot more head snapping punches.

        GGG landed more power punches to the head.

        GGG doubled Canelo in the jab department.

        GGG threw 879 punches to Canelo's 622, making him the much more active fighter.


        So GGG is understandably still the real champ for the majority of the public. And Canelo got a nice undeserved gift.

        It was a close fight where Canelo got the NOD.

        No need for this BS. No need for let’s remove this let’s remove that. What will it be next time then? Remove the punches that landed on the chest? Remove the punches that landed near the ears since its far from the chin? Jabs will be counted as a power punch since they’re too strong for some fighters?

        I like GGG and rooted for him, but this stuffs are ridiculous.
        Fight could’ve gone either way had GGG didn’t put his foot off the gas in the 12th he would have had a draw.

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        • Vasyl’s dad
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          #64
          Originally posted by Jsmooth9876
          You cant just REMOVE the body punches lol.. that's like these idiots just removing the 100+ jabs GGG landed. They all count.
          Oh yes you can. Go back to the Maidana floyd fight. Body pumches didnt count in that one.

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            #65
            Originally posted by stealthradon
            But don't you know the proper way of scoring a fight?

            A body shot counts as 3 points.
            If you land a jab you lose a point.
            If you survive a fight with GGG you gain 5 extra points each rounds.
            Not getting knocked down counts as an extra 10. Thats how Golovkin apparently lost against Canelo and Jacobs.

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              #66
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn
              with all due respect, the bruised skin is a sign of effective aggression and clean punching.
              So Injin Chi beat Erik Morales?

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                #67
                Originally posted by Vlad_
                Alright guys,


                Here are the official punch count stats:





                So let's go ahead and break those stats down.


                Canelo landed 46 body shots, GGG landed 6.
                And yet Canelo was the one who slowed down in the second half of the fight, while GGG upped his pace.

                So clearly, Canelo's body shots were not effective.



                Now let's do some basic math.

                Body shots are considered to be power punches, and since they were not effective, let's remove them from the count, and to be fair, we will remove them for both fighters.

                Canelo landed 143 total power punches, minus 46 body punches, leaving Canelo with 97 power punches upstairs.

                GGG landed 116 total power punches, minus 6 body punches (and those 6 were more effective than Canelo's 46), leaving GGG with 110 power punches upstairs.


                So in terms of power punches, GGG landed 13 more power punches to Canelo's head.


                Now when it comes to jabs, Canelo landed 59, while GGG landed 118, effectively doubling Canelo in the Jab department, therefore dominating Canelo in that category.


                Now talking about the face appearance, Canelo is 28, GGG is 36, and skin bruises a lot more at that age. And GGG always had easily marked skin. Also, GGG's cut was from a head clash, while Canelo's cut was from GGG's right hand. And while Canelo hit GGG in the facial area, GGG hit Canelo all over his skull.


                GGG landed a lot more head snapping punches.

                GGG landed more power punches to the head.

                GGG doubled Canelo in the jab department.

                GGG threw 879 punches to Canelo's 622, making him the much more active fighter.


                So GGG is understandably still the real champ for the majority of the public. And Canelo got a nice undeserved gift.

                If they fought under a system where landed punches determined the winner officially, GGG would have retained his titles.

                Instead, we have an "opinion-based" system where fighters continually get shafted again and again.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Daniel_T5
                  with all due respect not all boxers bruise the same...maidana would be undefeated by that criteria
                  I think you get my point -you don’t score bruises you score the punches that caused them and the lack of defense. The bruises could be an indicator that the judges properly scored the in ring action.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Panopticon
                    I've watched the fight 3 times. Once sober and 2 times completely hammered. GGG deserved to win that fight. He outboxed and outworked a younger Canelo and hit him consistently with better punches and combinations. When Floyd used the jab to beat Pac it was a masterpiece. When GGG uses the jab to beat Canelo twice it's just a jab.
                    The difference was pac only landed 81 punches that night

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by dibzvincent143
                      The difference was pac only landed 81 punches that night
                      According to compubox. Keep putting emphasis on two guys clicking buttons in real time. Compubox means shit.

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