Comments Thread For: Andre Ward: Canelo Won Clearly, He Broke Golovkin

[JakeTheBoxer]

Have you got any idea why isn`t Ward rich like Floyd? I mean, they are both unbeaten and boring as hell. What is the difference? why American promoters made Floyd rich like that while Ward is just forgotten ex champ?

[j.razor]

Don't you know? Every foreign boxer is just a hypejob created by "the white supremacists at HBO," I mean couldn't you hear them favoring GGG and ****ting on Canelo all night? They wanted Canelo to lose so bad! Everything is always in GGG's favor, and against Canelo and the American brothers! Every foreign boxer is a hypejobcreated by white supremacist HBO, and whenever they lose more 2 rounds in a fight, it means they were "exposed," and any time a decision goes against them, no matter how corrupt the judges (for Loma it was in Texas with the worst ref in the world son of the commissioner I believe, for Kovalev and GGG it was Vegas), it's not just a loss, it means they were "broken." When Kovalev got hit with 50 low blows by Ward, and got three uppercuts in a row right to the nuts and bent down expecting Ward to get warned, that was him "quitting." When GGG won the last 3 rounds against Canelo and stunned him twice, that meant Canelo "broke" GGG.

It honestly feels like bizarro world, that these are the people given large megaphones to voice what is supposed to be the normal, official take on what happened. Just because guys like Roy and Ward are ex-boxers does not mean they are fair-minded, good people who should be given the power and RESPONSIBILITY of that megaphone. They clearly either have personal animus towards GGG, or are simply xenophobic or jealous (very Christian, Andre) or something. The man gets ducked by Canelo for 3 years, Canelo even drops the belt to delay the fight until GGG is past his prime, Canelo only takes the fight after he sees clear slippage from GGG against both Brook and Jacobs (I noticed him slipping way before that but it only showed up obviously once GGG faced Brook and Jacobs), they rob GGG the first time, then Canelo pops for steroids and makes GGG get even a year older, then in the rematch I think GGG's altitude extreme training is really *****ing with his body now at this age because he was breathing super heavy against Canelo before Canelo even hit him once in the body... so basically after all that, I think GGG hit the wall, physically, by the 2nd or 3rd round against Canelo, a prime, fast, big puncher, in the biggest fight of GGG's career... so GGG was having to fight this guy with no air in his lungs, at only a percentage of his best self, and yet with his skill but mostly pure heart, after EVERYTHING that went against him, mostly by Canelo, Vegas, HBO, and other people, but some by his own team's mistakes, after ALL that, GGG still manages to put in an epic performance that will remembered for a long time and COME BACK to beat the prime opponent who actually has a competent trainer, but still look how they talk about him.

It reminds me of how Chocolatito moved up in weight to fight much bigger men, at an age where Chocolatito was already reaching the end of his prime, then he signed to fight a much bigger, super dangerous, super hard punching mandatory, Sor Rungvisai, instead of ducking his mandatory like so many of the American and Mexican stars do, then Sor Rungvisai dropped him with a body shot in the first round before headbutting him multiple times not long later, and Chocolatito had to fight the rest of the fight with blood spurting out his face in his eyes, against a much bigger, huge punching opponent, and yet somehow Chocolatito came back against all the odds and put in Rocky type of performance, only for the decision to be given to Sor Rungvisai, ironically, some believe, to clear the #1 P4P spot up so they could give it to the American, Ward.

Now, that fight Im still not actually sure who deserved to win, but it was an epic performance worthy of respect. The other reason it reminds me of Canelo-GGG II is that despite the performance Chocolatito gave, all the usual suspects were still online ****ting on him and calling him a white hypejob, I kid you not.

Canelo-GGG II, GGG definitely won, but it's the same type of thing. Everything was put in place to make him lose, that is what the powers that be wanted to happen, but with pure heart and will he flipped that script and forced them to rob him again if they were going to give it to Canelo. So, they did. Anyone who celebrates that most likely just had some serious family issues growing up or something and they have serious issues, they're not a fair or balanced person, they're the type of people who would poison an opponent before a fight but still beat their chest after knocking him out. Pathetic, little people. Not all, some are just Mexican homers, but many of the others are just pathetic.

Andre "S.O.G." Ward & Saul "Canelo" Alvarez got you

[Calibaloc]

Thats your best comeback because you know you were talking out your rectum lol go learn how to read and listen so you wont create false realities when someone can easily just find the correct info to dismiss your lies. Tell me why you mad son?

[j.razor]

That's your perspective. Golovkin was a machine between the ages of 26-34 and HBO saw the potential. You can't make a star out of someone who doesn't have star material. Yes he fought less than stellar opposition - you gonna argue he wasn't avoided? But to create the myth and hype he had to do something spectacular - who else has a 23 KO's in a row record? Even against c/B level opponents - who many by the way were ex belt holders or belt challengers.

That is a real twist you put on it 'bout HBO not wanting Ward andGolovkin at 168. Farcical mis-guided perspective. GGG wasn't going to 168 when his team could see a Canelo fight down the line.

The truth is that 168 had no big stars, nobody for Ward to fight and HBO wasn't goona get behind his boring a55 style in non-descript fights. "Go make a noise at 175 and challenge yourself and then we'll get behind you" is what that was all about. Fair play to Ward. He moved up and slayed the Kov monster - in his own mind and fan's minds anyway.

Truth is that Triple L was a hype job from the beginning period. Sure he has a solid punch, sure he can take a punch & sure he showed heart in his 2nd fight vs Nelo but that's where it STOPS. He was never an elite fighter & should NOT be praised as one. He DID lose to Jacobs AND Nelo TWICE, the ONLY 2 good fighters he fought his WHOLE pro career.

[j.razor]

This is just hbo propaganda. I’m boycotting hbo due to their fixed fights and I’m boycotting gbp as well due to their part in it. It’s gone to far. We as fight fans will lose the sport as a whole to this if we don’t do something about it and cut the infection out. Andre ward was a great fighter. Got signed to hbo for his personality so he can take Roy Jones place at commentary. There is an agenda. After the **** show biased commentary from hbo (know that gggs contract with hbo is up and Canelo is starting his) I can’t even watch anymore because it’s like they forget they’re reading a script and make it so obvious. Anytime max kellerman speaks I already know who’s gonna win the fight before it starts and that’s not because of his knowledge. It’s because he is not good at translating his script. Now this isn’t the wwe. This is real fighting. I’m done with hbo and with gbp and I hope some people wise up and follow that or make the conscious effort to clean our sport of frauds. Enough of the blatant cheating. The set up scores. The biased commentating. Enough. Anyone wanna bet there’s a 3rd fight between them? Yea we all knew that before the first one and how convenient the scores reflect that and keep the customer wanting more as in (ggg fans thinking he won so they want another rematch) any other score they wouldn’t be getting a rematch. I can’t stand it. And neither should you.

That's why I'm here daily exposing the B.S.

[factsarenice]

Ward always disliked Golovkin, thought he was better and should make more but didn't. Human frailty, nobody is perfect.

[j.razor]

thought it was interesting when Stephen Smith asked Ward if he thought there would be a rematch, Ward said something like, 'No, when the smaller man has gotten a victory like that, he needs to take the win, and move on', almost as if to say, count your blessings, and cherish the "victory"

hardly surprising that Ward would say some unsporting BS like this, tho, really

The only B.S. is coming from you. Andre knows they cheated Nelo in the 1st fight & harold ledderman help create an illusion that Triple L won the fight that's why Andre picked Nelo to win the 2nd fight cuz he KNOWS better.



^This was harold's winner....LMMFAO!

[j.razor]

I took it from the Cliff Rold article Butch. Guess he has more insight than you and me. Yep Ward made money but he never was a huge star - he was a hard core fan's idol but he never went main****** - and he really should have done after super six but he messed it up with long layoffs and boring style - or at least a style that doesn't appeal to casuals

Who ever said Triple L (97k) was a star?

[The Big Dunn]

One ducker and likely PED user defending another, just like Roy Jones, Andre Ward's idol, another PED user, defended Canelo.

Two American cheaters and duckers all ganging up to defend a Mexican cheater and ducker and lie about a Khazak boxer who worked his way from nothing to come to America after two of his brothers were killed in the military, was ducked throughout his prime, was ducked by Canelo, then got robbed in the first fight, had the rematch delayed because of Canelo's PED use, and then got robbed in the rematch as well.

And Ward calls himself a Christian? All three of them are showing their true colors. Anyone who takes what they're saying as objective and honest is neither themselves. What's crazy to me is that two of them, Roy and Ward, are major commentators for American boxing. No wonder so many American boxing fans are so ****** when it comes to boxing, and so xenophobic and biased. They are being taught the game by these biased, hateful fools.

You have to be a real scumbag to accuse Ward of PED use and cheating just because he thought GGG lost. Posts like this shows GGG's fanbase is made up of a lot of maggots, f@ggots, bigots and just all around scumbags like this.

The sport might miss him but it will not miss most of his fans.

[markther]

Thats your best comeback because you know you were talking out your rectum lol go learn how to read and listen so you wont create false realities when someone can easily just find the correct info to dismiss your lies. Tell me why you mad son?

Your the one mad-LOL!!! You keep responding after I sent a “video AND a quote” that clearly showed what Roy Jones said. Your still responding to those posts the NEXT DAY bringing up your same BS points. I have moved on. Get a f@cking life already. Go get some p@ssy or ass or jerk off or whatever you do over there- little punk ass b@tch-LOL!! We know YOU like rectums because you mentioned that in your post today. But your making yourself look really bad right now like a drunk uncle who is trying to get his point across and no one cares-LOL!!! And your largely irrelevant on this forum. Like I said; an internet tough guy that would piss on himself if I confronted you in person. Your a little b@tch and I would take your heart from you because your a little rough talking internet b@tch. And NO ONE likes your here, so go kill yourself already loser-LOL! Talking about rectums like the little f@got you are. Just beat it punk because your sounding real ******ed & ******. And your g@y ass should just come out the closet already-LOL!!! I will cash app you some money so you can bring it down a notch and pay for some p@ssy!!! It’s not that deep, go get some p@ssy or better yet, a JOB-LOL!!!!