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Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat View Post
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I feel like the peak of the modern athlete has progressed in age over the years and we've seen several examples in other sports beyond Boxing. What I find interesting is MOST people picking Canelo are going on the notion that GGG's "losing a step" or "Will get old over night". But how many times has that genuinely played out? If neither of those things present themselves and there's more of a likely hood that they won't, what's Canelo's next course of action? People were calling BHop old since he fought Oscar and likewise with Floyd for the better part of his 30s. GGG is 36 BUT without a load of mileage as it relates to Wars, grueling fights. Even Canelo being the younger guy I'm more worried about him being a year inactive and coming off knee surgery in April not even adding the mental pressure. We'll know everything we need to know in 2 days.
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Originally posted by sbbigmike View PostOne one his best performances, the last and flash back of PBF, at 154 Floyd was strong, you saw the size, and you heard the pop on his shots he was seriously buzzing Canelo here.......Floyd appeared drained in his fights at 147 thereafter, and soft in the belly
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Originally posted by Boxing Logic View PostFloyd never did 365 VADA testing like GGG, and admitted to doing vampire facials which is essentially blood doping. Also got caught using illegal saline IVs which are used to mask PED use. Next.
Floyd also got to work with super smart athletic scientists like Alex Ariza, while GGG is stuck with the dinosaur Abel Sanchez.
Floyd is also a defensive fighter, GGG is a pressure fighter. Styles make fights.
Also, every fighter is different. Pernell declined quicker than Floyd. Clean fighters decline way faster.
So in many different ways, the point you're insinuating with this thread is an unfair one, an unfair comparison that does not say what you think it says about Floyd or GGG. I say that to you respectfully, but it's true.
I think the fighter in my lifetime than was most impressive at this age was Bernard Hopkins. He was 36 when he fought Trinidad who was obviously much, much better than Canelo and far more experienced and Hopkins put on a masterpiece. It was rare back then for fighters to do well in their mid to late 30's. I think only the craziest of nutthuggers would think Floyd was clean and to be honest I second guess if Hopkins was clean back then too. I'd say he probably wasn't.
The most impressive "old" fighters of all-time would still have to be Archie Moore and Eder Jofre is up there. He was a dominating bantamweight in his prime where fighters fought more often and went away for more than 3 years and then claimed the Featherweight title with a great performance at age 37 and maintained that level of performance until age 40 without losing. There's no doubt those guys were clean and no catch-weights so the playing field was level. Back then 27/28 was old. Archie Moore brought his 10 year reign to and end at the age of 44 or 45 when their was only one champion and he was dominant and a consensus top two in history at his weight.Last edited by chrisJS; 09-13-2018, 01:41 PM.
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Originally posted by RL_GMA View PostFloyd weighed 149-150 the night of that fight against Canelo if I'm not mistaken. Truth be told, Floyd has trained / fought at around the 147 limit for the better part of 10 years. All 3 Jr Middleweight fights he fought at he barely clocked in at 150 fight night.
IF we are talking real in ring weights for this fight Floyd was 155-162.......Also Floyd started playing scale games thereafter to hide his ring weights
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