Comments Thread For: Anthony Joshua: Deontay Wilder Has 2 or 3 Years Left in Career

Collapse
Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Sid-Knee
    Undisputed Champion
    Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
    • Oct 2015
    • 18249
    • 1,091
    • 731
    • 155,532

    #251
    Originally posted by MC Hammer
    AJ is getting Ko'd in sparring. One Amateur KO when the guy was going on athleticism alone, a Kd early in his career doesn't show low punch resistance. If he couldn't take a punch that barrage from Ortiz would've put him out.

    Being hunched over by a body shot from parker, kd by Klitchko, almost kd by whyte and a general aversion to any staying in punching range does speak about Aj tho
    Joshua came out and said all those stories about training camp were bull****. He said the Price one was true, but that happened when he came out of a prison cell and not in fighting shape whereas Price was. The trainers wanted to teach Joshua a lesson by putting him in there with Price. And it wasn't a KO either, it was just a knockdown.

    Wilder got knocked out in the amateurs by a midget. So yes, his punch resistance is poor.

    Ortiz doesn't have any power any more. His shots had no weight or snap behind them. He's just sluggish these days. And old.

    Joshua wasn't hunched over by any body shot from Parker. He may have dipped to slip a punch, but he certainly didn't do it due to being hurt. So you're on your own there.

    Joshua was slightly stunned by Whyte, not nearly knocked down. So here again your reading of things are beyond exaggerated. Why do you Wilder fans always exaggerate and try and turn things into a negative all the time? Is your extreme insecurity the problem?

    Comment

    • Sid-Knee
      Undisputed Champion
      Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
      • Oct 2015
      • 18249
      • 1,091
      • 731
      • 155,532

      #252
      Originally posted by Tha Kid
      Like I said Numbskull don't ever use Floyd. There's NO comparison. NONE
      As I say, your intelligence is really low. Don't worry though, it's an American problem so you're not alone in being this ******ed, you have plenty of company.

      Comment

      • OldTerry
        Undisputed Champion
        Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
        • Mar 2006
        • 4713
        • 1,367
        • 1,472
        • 54,800

        #253
        Originally posted by Sid-Knee
        Joshua came out and said all those stories about training camp were bull****. He said the Price one was true, but that happened when he came out of a prison cell and not in fighting shape whereas Price was. The trainers wanted to teach Joshua a lesson by putting him in there with Price. And it wasn't a KO either, it was just a knockdown.

        Wilder got knocked out in the amateurs by a midget. So yes, his punch resistance is poor.

        Ortiz doesn't have any power any more. His shots had no weight or snap behind them. He's just sluggish these days. And old.

        Joshua wasn't hunched over by any body shot from Parker. He may have dipped to slip a punch, but he certainly didn't do it due to being hurt. So you're on your own there.

        Joshua was slightly stunned by Whyte, not nearly knocked down. So here again your reading of things are beyond exaggerated. Why do you Wilder fans always exaggerate and try and turn things into a negative all the time? Is your extreme insecurity the problem?
        It's interesting how what we see as truth is what our biases lead us to see. Not just you but just about all of us.

        Comment

        • Sid-Knee
          Undisputed Champion
          Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
          • Oct 2015
          • 18249
          • 1,091
          • 731
          • 155,532

          #254
          Originally posted by markther
          That’s easy. When Joshua fought Whyte in 2015, he wasn’t ranked or the Whyte we know now in 2018. When he fought Wladimir in 2017, the one that was inactive for a year and a half and 41 years old, he wasn’t the Wladimir that was the undisputed champion or even the one that lost to Fury in 2015 that was 2 years younger. Wladimir wasn’t ranked when he fought Joshua.

          When Wilder fought Stiverne he was a ranked Champion with the WBC HW Belt. When he fought Ortiz, he was ranked the 4th best HW.

          So in conclusion. When Wilder fought Stiverne, he was a champion belt holder and ranked higher than Whyte in the year when Joshua fought him in 2015. In that year Whyte wasn’t ranked in the top ten. When Wilder fought Ortiz in 2018, he was ranked higher at #4 and an active fighter than when Joshua fought Wladimir in 2017, who was inactive and unranked.
          So you're saying Stiverne and Ortiz are better wins than Wlad? Am I right?. And both are better wins than Whyte as well?

          Comment

          • Sid-Knee
            Undisputed Champion
            Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
            • Oct 2015
            • 18249
            • 1,091
            • 731
            • 155,532

            #255
            Originally posted by Vae Victis
            "And no, Joshua didn't get gifts at all, that's just poisonous Americans again trying to smear him. He won the fights, end of story." With these words you've just destroyed any credibility you may have had. AJ's 2012 Olympic wins were corrupt gifts and nothing more. Watch the videos. It's all there to see.
            Yes, they are on YT. And from that you'll see Joshua winning those fights.

            The first fight with Savon was the hardest fight for him. I had Savon by 1 scoring point at the end. But it went to countback which Joshua won. Which is fair enough because 1 scoring punch isn't enough to separate them. Not only that but Joshua landed the much harder shots so him getting the decision is as I say, fair enough. The other fights though I had Joshua winning with room to spare. I recorded all fights on a widescreen HD TV and counted every punch. I did this because I knew the Americans were going to smear a British Heavyweight by claiming he lost his fights. You're that predictable. You didn't let me down. So if you want to watch those fights again and tell me how many punches each fighter landed in every round we can take it from there.

            Comment

            • Sid-Knee
              Undisputed Champion
              Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
              • Oct 2015
              • 18249
              • 1,091
              • 731
              • 155,532

              #256
              Originally posted by OldTerry
              It's interesting how what we see as truth is what our biases lead us to see. Not just you but just about all of us.
              I don't do biased. I'm not so insecure as to not see the truth. I may not like it, but i'll be honest about it.

              Comment

              • markther
                Undisputed Champion
                Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                • Apr 2010
                • 2671
                • 111
                • 11
                • 38,604

                #257
                Originally posted by Sid-Knee
                So you're saying Stiverne and Ortiz are better wins than Wlad? Am I right?. And both are better wins than Whyte as well?
                I’m saying you must look at where fighters are in the year that those respective fights take place. Whyte or Wladimir were clearly not the fighters they were in their prime when Joshua fought them. Wladimir wasn’t the same fighter when Joshua fought him and neither was Whyte the fighter he is today in 2018. Based on that, Stiverne and Ortiz were the better wins. Stiverne was a belt holder and a champion and ranked and Ortiz was ranked number #4 when Wilder fought them. What was Whyte’s ranking when he fought Joshua in 2015 or Wladimir’s when he fought Joshua in 2017. That’s what I’m saying. It’s pretty clear.

                Comment

                • Vae Victis
                  Contender
                  Silver Champion - 100-500 posts
                  • Apr 2017
                  • 292
                  • 18
                  • 0
                  • 7,718

                  #258
                  Originally posted by Sid-Knee
                  Yes, they are on YT. And from that you'll see Joshua winning those fights.

                  The first fight with Savon was the hardest fight for him. I had Savon by 1 scoring point at the end. But it went to countback which Joshua won. Which is fair enough because 1 scoring punch isn't enough to separate them. Not only that but Joshua landed the much harder shots so him getting the decision is as I say, fair enough. The other fights though I had Joshua winning with room to spare. I recorded all fights on a widescreen HD TV and counted every punch. I did this because I knew the Americans were going to smear a British Heavyweight by claiming he lost his fights. You're that predictable. You didn't let me down. So if you want to watch those fights again and tell me how many punches each fighter landed in every round we can take it from there.
                  Dream on. Joshua lost those fight to the extent that it was outright corruption, and he was clowned by Roberto Cammarelle. Have a writing utensil and paper with you while you rewatch the videos. Set it on .25 speed and mark down the punches for each fighter. If you are accurate, you will see that AJ comes in second to his opponents in three of his fights. Do this before you respond with some blind emotional drivel such as, "AJ won!" Because AJ lost.

                  Comment

                  • Larry the boss
                    EDUCATED
                    Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 90798
                    • 6,419
                    • 4,473
                    • 2,500,480

                    #259
                    So he is saying he is waiting on him to get old?

                    Comment

                    • Idunnoshet
                      Undisputed Champion
                      Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                      • Mar 2016
                      • 4275
                      • 624
                      • 404
                      • 54,836

                      #260
                      Originally posted by Sid-Knee
                      You sound insecure, that's why I said so. Why, what did I write that's insecure? Point it out to me. Be specific.
                      Nah . I'm done with you.

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      TOP