Comments Thread For: Lomachenko vs. Pedraza May Head To December 8, in NYC

[factsarenice]

I mean, Tank absolutely destroyed Pedraza. I don't expect this to be competitive but I'm guessing it will be one of those, "he's too good for me to continue" stoppages.

Anything will be more competitive than Tank vs Padraza. Pedraza had no plan to fight Davis, none, he walked in and exchanged with a puncher. The fight was lost in the dressing room.

Padraza will fight his fight for as long as he can in what I expect to be a much more competitive fight.

[chrisJS]

The point flew right over your head, again! Apparently you don't know the definition of Devil's Advocate. Let me clue you in. ALL fighters fight leftovers. Yes, your precious Floyd and Davis and Lom and Chavez and Ali - all of them. So next time you want to look like a complete idiot, be sure to bring up "leftovers" and you can have it shoved back in your face again. And some day Davis will be someone's "leftovers" according to you. He even fought a guy 5 fights back who was the leftover of 18 other fighters. FYI - boxing insiders and long-term fans of the sport - not newbies like you - never use the term "leftovers" for anything other than to play the Devil's Advocate to blow that sht back in your face. By the way, Davis himself is a "leftover" from 15 other fighters according to you. Go look it up. FYI - all fighters are or become "leftovers" or fight "Leftovers" using that lame term. Every fighter has lost in their boxing career. Name one champion who was unbeaten from AM to Pro. Every fighter is someone's leftovers which makes the statement even more lame.

Mayweather's biggest win and that posters favorite fight was really just Rustico Torrecampo leftovers and Torrceampo was just Ritichai Kiatprapas leftovers himself just Lee Espinoza leftovers who was of course
Tongtong Guevarra leftovers so the goat probably is some guy that retired 1-0 in the Philippines due to being nobody's leftovers having fought nobody's leftovers.

That or Wanheng Menayothin but he fought some leftovers.

[richardt]

Mayweather's biggest win and that posters favorite fight was really just Rustico Torrecampo leftovers and Torrceampo was just Ritichai Kiatprapas leftovers himself just Lee Espinoza leftovers who was of course
Tongtong Guevarra leftovers so the goat probably is some guy that retired 1-0 in the Philippines due to being nobody's leftovers having fought nobody's leftovers.

That or Wanheng Menayothin but he fought some leftovers.

Exactly! Like they say - what goes around, comes around.

[Corelone]

Pedraza has enough skill to take advantage of a one armed fighter. That being said, Loma has a good left hand and a lot of motion. 50/50.

[chrisJS]

Exactly! Like they say - what goes around, comes around.

I just think he's very new to Boxing and a casual fan. The type that just watches for the big names, doesn't know or care about the history of the sport beyond a quick look on boxrec. His posts scream that out and there's a lot like him on here.

Hey, we were all new to the sport and started as casuals at some point. I think boxrec is a great tool as is YouTube but it doesn't give the incentives we had to learn when new to the sport. We had to go above and beyond to find things out and actually form opinions and learn about the sport properly.

[Jab jab boom]

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Originally Posted by BLACK KNOT View Post
lomachenko will slaughter this rican in
NYC in front of other ricans just like he did roman martinez! shows you just how good and held in high esteem lomachenko is when a two division champion like pedraza is considered a tune up for you!!! war GOATchenko!!!



Those 2 Loma fights have other circumstances than face value. Salido outweighed Loma by a bunch, and Linares was merely cut up by a prime DeMarco MANY fights ago. Having said that, Loma is a tough nut to crack, but is beatable. I don't think he'll look as amazing if he and Crawford ever hook up, although it will be a close fight. But, Loma will beat Pedraza by mid/late rounds, and he's definitely top 3 P4P in the sport now.

I know those fights had different circumstances but they're still facts. And I think more needs to be accomplished before anointing him as a goat and giving him corny names like goatchenko.

[BLASTER1]

Loma makes him quit on the stool after 7.
A unification after surgery.
That's crazy.

[PunchyPotorff]

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Originally Posted by BLACK KNOT View Post
lomachenko will slaughter this rican in
NYC in front of other ricans just like he did roman martinez! shows you just how good and held in high esteem lomachenko is when a two division champion like pedraza is considered a tune up for you!!! war GOATchenko!!!

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Originally Posted by Jab jab boom View Post
goatchenko? Going a little hard on the Fandom wouldn't you say?? We're talking about a guy who lost to double digit loses Salido and went life & death and put on his pants by someone who was stopped by Antonio Demarco.

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Originally Posted by PunchyPotorff View Post
Those 2 Loma fights have other circumstances than face value. Salido outweighed Loma by a bunch, and Linares was merely cut up by a prime DeMarco MANY fights ago. Having said that, Loma is a tough nut to crack, but is beatable. I don't think he'll look as amazing if he and Crawford ever hook up, although it will be a close fight. But, Loma will beat Pedraza by mid/late rounds, and he's definitely top 3 P4P in the sport now.

I know those fights had different circumstances but they're still facts. And I think more needs to be accomplished before anointing him as a goat and giving him corny names like goatchenko.

You can think Loma isn't GOAT all you want. I feel the same, for now at least, but unless you note and write appropriately that those 2 Loma fights have other circumstances than face value, your rant means zero.

[Jab jab boom]

Quote:
Originally Posted by BLACK KNOT View Post
lomachenko will slaughter this rican in
NYC in front of other ricans just like he did roman martinez! shows you just how good and held in high esteem lomachenko is when a two division champion like pedraza is considered a tune up for you!!! war GOATchenko!!!

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Originally Posted by Jab jab boom View Post
goatchenko? Going a little hard on the Fandom wouldn't you say?? We're talking about a guy who lost to double digit loses Salido and went life & death and put on his pants by someone who was stopped by Antonio Demarco.

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Originally Posted by PunchyPotorff View Post
Those 2 Loma fights have other circumstances than face value. Salido outweighed Loma by a bunch, and Linares was merely cut up by a prime DeMarco MANY fights ago. Having said that, Loma is a tough nut to crack, but is beatable. I don't think he'll look as amazing if he and Crawford ever hook up, although it will be a close fight. But, Loma will beat Pedraza by mid/late rounds, and he's definitely top 3 P4P in the sport now.



You can think Loma isn't GOAT all you want. I feel the same, for now at least, but unless you note and write appropriately that those 2 Loma fights have other circumstances than face value, your rant means zero.

do you even know what a rant is? I merely stated that a guy who lost to salido and was dropped and struggled with Linares shouldn't be called a goat as of now. Now if you want to get into specifics, Linares struggled in 2 of his last 3 fights leading into his fight with Loma. So let's not pretend that he was in there with a top 10 P4P guy because he wasn't. The only top 10 P4P guy he ever fought was 2 weight classes smaller than him and was only in the ring for 3 rounds for the 2 yrs leading into that fight. As far as salido, his style is his style & that didn't stop Mikey garcia from beating him 2 fights before he faced Loma nor did it stop rocky martinez from beating him 2 fights after he beat Loma. So you can add that to your face value.

[PunchyPotorff]

do you even know what a rant is? I merely stated that a guy who lost to salido and was dropped and struggled with Linares shouldn't be called a goat as of now. Now if you want to get into specifics, Linares struggled in 2 of his last 3 fights leading into his fight with Loma. So let's not pretend that he was in there with a top 10 P4P guy because he wasn't. The only top 10 P4P guy he ever fought was 2 weight classes smaller than him and was only in the ring for 3 rounds for the 2 yrs leading into that fight. As far as salido, his style is his style & that didn't stop Mikey garcia from beating him 2 fights before he faced Loma nor did it stop rocky martinez from beating him 2 fights after he beat Loma. So you can add that to your face value.

Your reading comprehension skills may be thwarted by your aggressive know it all attitude, but really I don't care. I said I agreed Loma isn't yet GOAT, and I explained why with valid reasoning. I walk away from idiots like you rather than converse any more. Which is what I'll do now. No wonder your rep is so low.