How highly would you rate GGG if he were to beat Canelo (officially)?

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  • Scipio2009
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    #11
    Will depend on how he looks

    If he were to beat Alvarez close, he would've fought Brook even (before the eye took him out of the fight), fought Jacobs close, and just fought Alvarez close in their first fight.

    An A+ can crusher, but when put in with anyone who could actually fight, he ends up being just alright.

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    • boliodogs
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      #12
      It would stay the same. I expect him to clearly beat Canelo and this time get the win I think he clearly deserved in the first fight.

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      • mathed
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        #13
        He won last time, easily IMO. I fully expect him to break the cheating chica down and force her to quit late.

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        • boliodogs
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          #14
          Originally posted by Scipio2009
          If he were to beat Alvarez close, he would've fought Brook even (before the eye took him out of the fight), fought Jacobs close, and just fought Alvarez close in their first fight.

          An A+ can crusher, but when put in with anyone who could actually fight, he ends up being just alright.
          The eye did not take take Brook out of the fight. His trainer knew all about the eye and they let him come out for the round. The trainer stopped the fight in the middle of the round because GGG was a punch or two away from knocking Brook out. If it was the eye you evaluate it between rounds instead of stopping it in mid round to save your boxer from a certain KO. You make it sound like Brook might have won without the eye injury but Brook was done and was certain to get KOed eye or no eye. So he had close fights with Jacobs and Canelo. So the *** what? Jacobs and Canelo are excellent fighters and no middleweight should be expected to beat them with ease.The great middleweights of the past like Robinson, Hagler and Hopkins all had close fights and loses. Now GGG has two close fights with two outstanding middleweights and you try to turn him into an average champion.He will be a first ballot hall of fame boxer much to your disapproval I'm sure.

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          • Buckfever
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            #15
            Best of his era, but it was a weak era at middleweight. For legacy he should have fought Ward, for money he made the right moves holding out for the Canelo paydays.

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            • Scipio2009
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              #16
              Originally posted by boliodogs
              The eye did not take take Brook out of the fight. His trainer knew all about the eye and they let him come out for the round. The trainer stopped the fight in the middle of the round because GGG was a punch or two away from knocking Brook out. If it was the eye you evaluate it between rounds instead of stopping it in mid round to save your boxer from a certain KO. You make it sound like Brook might have won without the eye injury but Brook was done and was certain to get KOed eye or no eye. So he had close fights with Jacobs and Canelo. So the *** what? Jacobs and Canelo are excellent fighters and no middleweight should be expected to beat them with ease.The great middleweights of the past like Robinson, Hagler and Hopkins all had close fights and loses. Now GGG has two close fights with two outstanding middleweights and you try to turn him into an average champion.He will be a first ballot hall of fame boxer much to your disapproval I'm sure.
              The trainer threw the towel in because he could see that Brook no longer had clear enough vision to have a chance in the fight; sit and watch the final round of that fight and you can clearly see that Golovkin didn't really land any real shots to end the didn't, while Brook was only able to slip basically everything due to his spacial awareness with his back against the ropes. Golovkin had size, but Golovkin couldn't do hardly **** with Brook when Brook forced him to move his feet.

              I like Alvarez and Jacobs, but if you want to call them great fighters, that's on you.

              In his entire career, Golovkin has fought maybe a handful of fighters who could actually fight: 154lbs Kassin Ouma, Daniel Geale, 147lb Kell Brook, Daniel Jacobs, and Saul Alvarez. You might be able to count 154lb Gabe Rosado and almost man Martin Murray, but that'd be pushing it.

              Let's see how many folks are even thinking about Golovkin 5 years after he hangs up the gloves.

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              • iamboxing
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                #17
                A Canelo win cements his HOF place. It'll be the best name on his resume and you can't say anything about Canelo's condition or experience - he's the best he'll ever be.

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                • Cutthroat
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                  #18
                  If the PED rumors are true, not very high at all which is where I currently rank him, Canelo without PED's would've lost to Austin Trout & Lara.

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