At 36 years old GGG has only faced 4 world champions

[TJ highway]

Lets not play games! Many fighters have dodged GGG!

[Robbie Barrett]

It's not how many champs you beat but what type of champs you beat that matters.

Fighters that were champs only at lower weights and champs that picked up vacant titles?

His resume is garbage.

[BoxingIsGreat]

I did not see Cotto or Canelo or Sergio jumping to sign a contract when they won a piece of the 160 tiitle!



Also to all you green fans you don't judge a fighters abilities or their legacy by their "move up". If you can maintain your weight at a certain division limit most fighters stay there.
Guys like Mayweather moved because they out grew a weight class. Do you think Mayweather makes 130lbs at 30 years old. Does he go to 135lbs as a 34 year old?

We have fans here who don't have a clue about weight classes!


Both GGG and Canelo are good competitors both they are not "great fighters", being very good is a huge accomplishment.
Imagine how difficult it would be for anyone on this forum to become a good competitor? Might be 3 people, I know young Scully is one, I know another one hahahaha..........

Ray

I agree with the bold, with Canelo having more boxing skills and some special effects.

[victorythagr8]

My issue with golovkin is that he stayed at one of the weakest division in boxing. People claim canelo and cotto both ducked him when reality was that they have far bigger option than golovkin. Both have a real chance of rematching floyd or fighting each other . All of those option would make alot more money than fighting ggg.

Remember those fighters that you claim are ducking GGG already moved up to multiple weight classes. GGG is even too ***** to move up to 168. Even hopkins moved up to light heavyweight.

[Pat bateman]

I like golovkin, but that's not even a proper argument.

Wasnt intended to be a argument its a comment to a glib remark about a man in his 30s "only fighting 4 champions"

[Vegemil]

well there is now, and he blatantly avoided his mando...
but bring on the vanes of the world lol...

Oh yeah great idea to get into a fight against a killer before a CONFIRMED FIGHT WITH THE BIGGEST NAME IN THE BOXING WORLD. Good idea idiot.

[moochi]

That's what happens when you are a Unified Dominant Champion of one division...

['b']

A lot of GGG's supposed greatness is hypothetical - "Yeah he hasn't done much, BUT he would beat 'insert accomplished MW from a bygone era'"

Hell Triple Tree would probably knock out Godzilla and King Kong on the same night, give him p4p#1 status now

[Derranged]

We are in an era where you dont have to actually do anything to be great..just have a fan base saying"oh he would have beat him anyway"

I can't tell you how many times I've seen Floyd fans write this when he didn't fight the guys the fans wanted.

[dannnnn]

Tell me, which former or current middleweight champions SHOULD Golovkin have fought that he didn't?

Sturm avoided him like the plague and paid off the WBA to prevent that fight. Dibella wouldn't let Martinez anywhere near Golovkin (which is excusable since Martinez was nearing the end of his career). Who else? Cotto fought at middleweight but was realistically too small for Golovkin and knew it. Before the Lemieux fight, Saunders didn't want anything to do with Golovkin because he knew he wasn't ready, and he's on camera saying as much.

The fact is, Golovkin has been willing to face any and all comers in his division ever since he was a was a 19-0 prospect holding the WBA Regular title and doing all he could to force a fight with the Super champion Sturm.

Golovkin has ALWAYS wanted the big fights, he just never had the strong promotional backing to get them and was considered too high risk by potential opponents. His team even offered to fight Darren Barker essentially for FREE (just some ringside tickets) and they still declined the fight.

The man has ran through every contender in the division almost, like the old school fighters used to, and has done it in greatly impressive fashion. The only criticism one could possibly have is that he didn't fight Derevyanchenko, but that was because he always had a multi-million dollar rematch with Canelo in the pipeline. If Derevyanchenko proves himself against Jacobs and wins the IBF title (and Golovkin defeats Canelo), I've no doubt we will see Golovkin-Derevyanchenko in a ring together before too long.

And aside from all that, it's foolish to look at statistics as the be-all, end-all. It's not just about who you beat, it's about when you beat them. For example, Canelo has wins over former world champions such as Carlos Baldomir, Lovemore N'dou, Kermit Cintron, Shane Mosley, Amir Khan and Liam Smith. Four of those guys were well past their prime, one was a physical mismatch and the other one was not truly world-class anyway. So tell me, how much does it REALLY mean to beat those guys apart from just having their name on your record?

Canelo has some really credible wins on his record like Austin Trout and Erislandy Lara and I'm not trying to disparage him in any way, but my point is that you people need to look past MORE than just statistics. With four different world titles in every weight class these days, the titles themselves really don't mean as much as they used to. Take Adrien Broner as a perfect example... four-weight world champion on paper yet who has he really beat? Pretend the titles don't exist and judge his career on opponents alone and it looks much different.

Golovkin is doing what Hagler did, what Hopkins did, what old school fighters did. He's taking on all comers and cleaning out his division. Of course there will be some less than spectacular opponents in there; during Hopkins' title reign he beat "Roadblock" Robert Allen three times for Christ's sake yet nobody complains about that. It comes with the territory.