Comments Thread For: Mosley: If Golovkin Turns it On Early, He Could Stop Canelo

[eco1]

Victor Conte says that training in altitude into your thirties actually ruins your speed and power because as the body ages, it cant repair muscle fibers as quickly, and sleeping at altitude means there is not enough oxygen in the air to fully repair those muscles after a workout. He said the positive effects for stamina also stop happening. He said because the muscle fibers cant fully repair themselves anymore, the body replaces the thin, fast, high twitch, explosive muscle fibers, which also take less oxygen to operate I guess, with thicker, slower muscle that takes more oxygen to use, thus stamina. If you look at GGG's body now compared to in his prime, his muscle is thicker, heavier, and slower. Canelo still has his lean explosive muscle, GGG does not. Seems like Victor Conte is up to date on this science since that's what he does, but Abel, an old school trainer not a chemist, is not up to date. If that's the case, Abel may be ruined GGG by training him in Big Bear and that may be the reason GGG has aged so badly over the last 3-4 years.

So yeah, normally I'd agree with you, but in this case, the opposite of what you're saying may be true.

That is actually and opinion, no medical hold on that.

[LA_2_Vegas]

IDK if it's about starting earlier or not, but I know for sure it will have to involve a concerted effort to the body - it was severely lacking in the first fight.

[eco1]

If Canelo's body is not as muscular, he migh get stopped. Very difficult to adjust your strength & stamina after stopping PEDs. GGG can go 20 rds. & built naturally.

Canelo will be on PED's count on that, they will just find a way to mask it. Anyway, Canelo is going down this time.
Shot to the liver and a right to the head....

[NC Uppercut]

I agree whole heartedly

[saopaulo]

Too many boxing experts who’ve never laced a pair of gloves offering the most garbage of inputs. Keep it coming, it’s hilarious...

same thing goes for too many wanna be journalists trying to act like they have knowledge in journalism.

like you

[Vae Victis]

What do you expect? When the boxing establishment over-marinates every single big fight until the fighter they want to lose gets old, in order to control the outcomes of those important fights, then the cost to controlling the outcomes is that the fights are huge letdowns because one of the fighters is old, usually the formerly more dangerous and offensive one who in his prime would have been the one creating all the action and excitement.

As for GGG, started slow vs Canelo to save energy, still finished slow. Started slow vs Jacobs, still ran out of energy and finished slow. Contrast that to prime GGG that was throwing 100 punches per round deep into the fight vs Stevens, and close to that level vs Martin Murray and Ouma deep into the fight. He used to have amazing stamina, now, it's better than Canelo's, but not good what it used to be. And his punches aren't either. The speed is gone, and speed is velocity, which affects the power as well.

Boxing Logic, I only hope that in this fight boxing logic is replaced by boxing chaos, and what I mean is (as I've written before) a Hagler vs Hearns or a Hearns vs Duran fight. Dispense with the logical approach and let chaos reign. And may the best man win. That or we can have Alfred E. Neuman vs Richie Cunningham part two on September 15th.

[stuff jones]

I can't think of a fight where Golovkin pressured a strong puncher. He boxes them.
I'd love to see Golovkin pour it on him but I really don't expect it.

Canelo isnt a strong puncher at MW.

[katlholo]

PEDs will give you durability, intensity, stamina and to some extent, strength. But they can't give you a skills set. You either have this or you dont. Canelo proved in first fight he was far too skillful for ggg and will do so again.

[markther]

I watched the 1st fight again today. And here is how I scored each round. I don’t know what fight Harold Letterman was watching for HBO. Or what fight Byrd was watching. I came up with a draw. And if you threatened my life and told me to pick one, I could have went Canelo by giving him the 11th or GGG by giving him the 1st round.

I also noticed Canelo took GGG’s punches well and GGG took Canelo’s shots well. But they were both cautious enough to respect each others power. The obvious was Canelo needs to be more effective with his jab more to set up his offense and stay off the ropes. GGG needs to throw more to the body when Canelo finds himself on the ropes because he was still getting countered head hunting so take more risks to the body. And Canelo is much more effective in the middle of the ring versus backing up.


Harold Letterman
1-G
2-C
3-C
4-G
5-G
6-G
7-G
8-G
9-G
10-G
11-C
12-C


ME
1-C
2-C
3-C
4-G
5-G
6-C
7-G
8-G
9-G
10-C
11-G
12-C

Judges
Byrd 118-110-Canelo
Moretti-115-113-GGG
Trella-114-114-Draw

Letterman-116-112-GGG
ME-114-114-Draw

Jim Lampley:
A lot of writers on press row-scored the fight a draw

Combu-Box-Total Punches
Canelo 169/505=33%
GGG 218/703=31%

Power Punches:
Canelo 114/272=42%
GGG 110/342=32%

Jabs
Canelo 55/233=24%
GGG 108/361=30%

[Kiowhatta]

Everybody rightly knows what GGG needs to do to win this fight except GGG and Sanchez, the idiot. He needs to throw his tentativeness and possibly Sanchez's advice encouraging him to box Alvarez, and play on his natural strengths!
Press, be vicious, work the body in the first half, and he will crumble in the second half. Forget about what Saul might do or not do. Golovkin you have the tools to beat him, but you're simply not using them!
Every goddamned idiot knows what GGG needs to do. But he's not listening.
That's why most experts and fans are picking Canelo (taking nothing away from him) to win.