Wilder agreed and announced he'll fight Fury?

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With no date or venue, but kicked up a fuss because Joshua hadn't put a date or venue in the contract.

But Hearn also refused to put language in the contract barring interim fights.

So you're being manipulated by Hearn's latest IFL propaganda.

Wilder's original term sheet to AJ didn't have a date or venue, but it specified the general time frame and stated there couldn't be any interim fights.

Hearn's contract made no mention of any time frame and didn't have any language preventing interim fights.

That's the difference.

[Lopez_Boxing]

How is it not comparable?

They had a contract on the table with a fight meant to happen in November. No fixed date or venue, yet it was completely unacceptable according to finkel and wilder.

Fury had another fight, there's no contract, no date no venue no nada - yet fight has been announced on all media

Hilarious. Now, I don't really care who came up with what excuses and who caused the deal not to happen, but this is some funny stuff from team Wilder.

November is not comparable to April

Now is not comparable to later

2018 isn’t comparable to 2019

Vegas is not comparable to Wembley

The fight was only going to be announced baring a fury victory there wasn’t a contract in place before the fury fight. Warren stated on many occasions that fury needs to look good for the fight to happen. Wilder is ready to go. Maybe if Joshua said we can go in November then Wilder would say take this fight and let’s get it on after IN NOVEMBER. ESPECIALLY in Las Vegas. No 2 totally different scenarios. ONES NOW and the other one is maybe in April. Didn’t really have a date on it I know Hearns May have a venue booked in April but the contract DIDNT SAY APRIL. There was no date

[LacedUp]

Man you really wrote this??? Take Joe Frazier out of your avy!

Wash your face...tuck your shirt in.... tie your shoes...AND PULL YOUR ****EN PANTS UP!!! You're posting on Boxing Scene for crying out loud!!!

I don't know who you are.

[LacedUp]

November is not comparable to April

Now is not comparable to later

2018 isn’t comparable to 2019

Vegas is not comparable to Wembley

The fight was only going to be announced baring a fury victory there wasn’t a contract in place before the fury fight. Warren stated on many occasions that fury needs to look good for the fight to happen. Wilder is ready to go. Maybe if Joshua said we can go in November then Wilder would say take this fight and let’s get it on after IN NOVEMBER. ESPECIALLY in Las Vegas. No 2 totally different scenarios. ONES NOW and the other one is maybe in April. Didn’t really have a date on it I know Hearns May have a venue booked in April but the contract DIDNT SAY APRIL. There was no date

This guy clearly didn't follow the Wilder vs joshua negotiations.

[LacedUp]

But Hearn also refused to put language in the contract barring interim fights.

So you're being manipulated by Hearn's latest IFL propaganda.

Wilder's original term sheet to AJ didn't have a date or venue, but it specified the general time frame and stated there couldn't be any interim fights.

Hearn's contract made no mention of any time frame and didn't have any language preventing interim fights.

That's the difference.

Ah the usual suspect coming in to disregard facts and logic to suck wilder's **** in public.

[Lopez_Boxing]

This guy clearly didn't follow the Wilder vs joshua negotiations.

Yeah I don’t know every detail, but neither do you....and of course we’re just running out of time

[j0zef]

they've agreed to terms, the fight is in las vegas, this year, and on ppv. eddie hearn did not do that.

they're literally shopping around to see which casino is going to give them the most money. we later found out that eddie hearn has an obligation to an arena


notice how quickly he fought alexander povetkin? you genuinely think that fight had to happen before joshua fought wilder?


the blatant reality that eddie hearn wanted the fight next year and at home [which makes them all less money] was finally realized by the casual brits and they have since left boxingscene to watch football. i really don't know why you have come back, surely you cannot be that enamored with eddie hearn to realize the truth.

It doesn't really matter what they said or 'agreed on' verbally. If it's not in a contract, it's not enforceable.

And Hearn did say when and where - Nov 18 or Feb 19 in London, exactly for the reasons you describe. He wanted a deal done so he could secure a good date & TV package.

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Ah the usual suspect coming in to disregard facts and logic to suck wilder's **** in public.

Says the man who literally ignored all of my facts to instead resort to childish name calling.

The facts are that Hearn's contract contained zero language guaranteeing the fight was next. That is why the lack of date became an issue.

[New England]

It doesn't really matter what they said or 'agreed on' verbally. If it's not in a contract, it's not enforceable.

And Hearn did say when and where - Nov 18 or Feb 19 in London, exactly for the reasons you describe. He wanted a deal done so he could secure a good date & TV package.

you obviosuly don't know how these things work, adn that is fine.

contracts are not written until you agree to the basic terms. why pay a lawyer to go line for line regarding ring size and glove type when you have not agreed to how much money the fighters will make, and when the fight will take place. team wilder made an offer for 50 million dollars with an upside for a fight in las vegas. hearn turned it down!

then he made a low ball offer designed to be ignored, and wilder's team accepted, asked for a contract to be negotiated. eddie did not provide a date and stalled until the WBA miraculously called for a mandatory against a washed up, russia, drug cheat.


it is what it is, i have no dog in this fight and you clearly do. eddie hearn wanted no part of deontay wilder in las vegas in 2018 and for the most money. that's really all you need to know about why the fight didn't take place.

if you're a fan of boxing you shoudl want this fight to take place now, and you should not like eddie hearn at the moment. you understand that, surely.

[j0zef]

you obviosuly don't know how these things work, adn that is fine.

contracts are not written until you agree to the basic terms. why pay a lawyer to go line for line regarding ring size and glove type when you have not agreed to how much money the fighters will make, and when the fight will take place. team wilder made an offer for 50 million dollars with an upside for a fight in las vegas. hearn turned it down!

then he made a low ball offer designed to be ignored, and wilder's team accepted, asked for a contract to be negotiated. eddie did not provide a date and stalled until the WBA miraculously called for a mandatory against a washed up, russia, drug cheat.


it is what it is, i have no dog in this fight and you clearly do. eddie hearn wanted no part of deontay wilder in las vegas in 2018 and for the most money. that's really all you need to know about why the fight didn't take place.

if you're a fan of boxing you shoudl want this fight to take place now, and you should not like eddie hearn at the moment. you understand that, surely.

You're 100% guessing at the bolded part. Last we heard was Wilder was questioning some part of the contract. And it sure as hell wasn't miraculous mandatory - they told Joshua he needs to fight Povetkin on June 26th, and then extended it an extra month. If anything, that mandate was extremely late.

@2nd bolded part - you're incorrect. I don't have a dog in this fight. I've defended Wilder here on this forum for years. I will say that recently, I've started leaning more towards Joshua. But that has more to do with Wilder than anything - saying he wants to kill a man and talking about Breazeale's son. That sht was ***ed up and really turned me off him.

You're correct though, they didn't want Wilder in Vegas for $50M. That interview from Joshua was a huge PR blunder. Once it became reality, they very quickly realized it was not worth it. Joshua made ~$25m fighting in Wembley against Wlad and against Parker. A HW unification fight is bigger than both, they'd be looking at $35M purse minimum. To them, it was not worth it to give up all the promotional control and home field for the extra money. You can have different opinions about it, but I don't blame them. If Golovkin magically pulled $50M out of his ass for a fight in Kazakhstan and presented to Canelo, I wouldn't blame Canelo for not taking it either.

The two main reasons I don't buy any of the 'Joshua is ducking' nonsense is because a) Joshua has fought half the guys in top10 already. He never ducked nobody, and b) Wilder looked like crap in his last fight, dude barely survived the round and almost got KOd.