I am sorry if my standards are high, but when you say Elite i wanna see special

[Just looking]

Don't forget Inoue

[krazyn8tive]

The boxers who I see with special talent today are Loma, Crawford..These 2 are really so far about everyone else its crazy..There are some real good boxers today but these guys are i a league of their own

Do you watch the ufc at all?

[TheBigLug]

I think we also need to separate "Elite" from "slick". Some people think elite fighters must be slick. Pac was unorthodox and simple but he was elite for a time. Spence might be elite, even though he's not slick.

100% agreed.

You can be a world class crude brawler and a domestic/journeyman level slick fighter. There's fighters in local gyms that you might say are technically and fundamentally "better" than a guy like Maidana, but he was a world level fighter at what he did.

same goes for elite fighters. You can still be elite without being slick.

[S7V7N]

Well, there's a definition for the word elite, and there's a definition for the word special. Words have specific meanings for a reason, and what I constantly see is people choosing to define "elite fighters" in a way that only supports their agenda.

Elite fighters are those at the top. Just because some fighters are elite in this generation, doesn't mean they would be elite in any other generation, but that's the way it works. That's why we can also classify fighters with other terms like hall of Famers, contemporary greats, all time greats, etc.

If you want to talk about special fighters, just say that, but we don't need to start coming up with our unique definitions of already existing terms. That's like me saying I only consider a fighter a champion if he unifies... who cares!? A fighter is a champion by holding a recognized championship belt and that's the end of that!

They are two different words.
Special is higher than elite.
All special fighters are elite.
Not all elite fighters are special.

Elite fighters are top ranked guys that have proven a lot in a few years. But we’ve seen many of them thruout history.
guys like cotto, sergio come to mind in the recent era. Elite during their primes but not special.

Special fighters are only few of their breed.

Great posts! It's the problem of some few not even understanding the meaning of the word or inventing "their own" determination strictly to fit into the agenda their pushing.

elite
noun
”a select group that is superior in terms of ability or qualities to the rest of the group or society”

Fighters who have separated themselves from thousands – or tens of thousands – of other fighters in the world. Pound for pound is the elite of the elite.

There's a whole article on this discussion just last month over on BLH with 157 comments.

[nubianpiye]

yet you are a Wilder fan. Happy to watch mediocrity so long as you share a nationality. Larry is a patriot in a country where he is hated what a confused guy.

[Beercules]

Usyk?


Hello

[BoxingIsGreat]

There was an article here yesterday calling Danny Jacobs elite. Is Jacobs elite or special?

[BoxingIsGreat]

There are more special fighters than just the two you listed:

Davis
Inoue
Usyk
Spence

[Madison Boxing]

people mentioning inoue who the hell has be beat to be considered remotely elite lol, christ almighty. his best win is jamie mcdonell. if he wins the wbss then we can start saying hes elite, not before then.

[Jsmooth9876]

Remember when people thought Broner was elite because he was fighting tiny guys.

You really dont know if someone is elite until they step up the competition and win.