What Makes Mayweather P4P the Best?

[mayweather]

this is their first fight

hahaha yeah i like the 6th round which is the first on that clip

not a very good example of trying to show castillo won because mayweather backed him up with the jab the whole time and had good ring generalship and owned him with a beautiful straight right and castillo landed like one noticable punch.

close fight though i will agree

[Super_Lightweight]

Gatti had to fight him or he wouldve been stripped.

Gatti didn't give a **** about a belt. He was bout to move up in weight anyway. He fought Floyd because he wanted to test himself, period.

Floyd is number one according to RING because of the way he beat Gatti, Corley, Judah, etc. Not necessarily THAT he beat em...the WAY he did it. Also, I believe Floyd is given some retroactive credit for beating Castillo considerng how good Castillo did after he lost to Floyd, one of those losses being very controversial.

Floyd's resume at 130 is much better than it is at 140-147 though. Floyd needs to step it up soon.

[deliveryman]

Gatti didn't give a **** about a belt. He was bout to move up in weight anyway. He fought Floyd because he wanted to test himself, period.

Floyd is number one according to RING because of the way he beat Gatti, Corley, Judah, etc. Not necessarily THAT he beat em...the WAY he did it. Also, I believe Floyd is given some retroactive credit for beating Castillo considerng how good Castillo did after he lost to Floyd, one of those losses being very controversial.

Floyd's resume at 130 is much better than it is at 140-147 though. Floyd needs to step it up soon.

I agree that Floyd's resume is better at 130-135, than it is at 140-147.

But I don't see how you can blame Floyd for that. Can we please examine the situation?

Floyd's plan, which he stated over and over and over again was, fight Gatti at 140 on PPV, to set up a Kostya fight. Except Gatti for the life of him refused to fight Mayweather.

So Floyd had to basically force it: He fought Corely as a tune up and Brussles for as a WBC Title Eliminator to become the WBC #1 Contender, forcing Gatti to fight him or he'll be stripped. He didn't want to ACTUALLY fight Brussles.

Okay, so he finally sets up a fight with Gatti. And at the same time, Ricky Hatton bursts onto the world stage with his upset win over Kostya Tszyu. Also at this time Cotto is really starting to make some noise.

Both Ricky and Cotto come to Floyd's fight with Gatti, and they sit RINGSIDE... to try and build a potiental future fight with the winner of the fight. Except we all know what Floyd did to Gatti and Hatton NOR Cotto wanted anything to do with Mayweather after that fight. Ricky took his ass all the way back to England in a heartbeat and fought Carlos Maussa, after the performance Mayweather put on.

So instead of Floyd sitting picking ass waiting for Hatton and Cotto to decide "when they're ready," Floyd moves up to welter and schedules to fight at the time UNDISPUTED CHAMP Zab Judah. So both fighters agree to take 1 fight as a build-up towards their PPV fight. Floyd picks a slick south-paw (like Judah is) in Sharmba Mitchell, and Zab Judah selects Baldomir to look good against... except Zab being the inconsistent ****** that he is, LOSES. Which screws everything up, and took a lot of the luster off of that fight. But since they were scheduled the fight anyway, and after some re-negotiation they fought.

Then Oscar beats Mayorga, and the chances of an Oscar-Floyd fight happening never seemed better... a chance where Floyd could make anywhere in the range of $15-25 million dollars. Yet at the same time Arum decides to offer Floyd $8 million to fight Margarito. Of course Floyd is going to go after the bigger money AND the bigger name AND the bigger challenge (in my opinion anyway) at that point. Yet people criticized him, and claimed he was "ducking" Margarito which is an absolute JOKE.

Which leads us to today, and we all know that the Arum offer is back on the table. So let's just see what Floyd does.

But there's no way in hell, you can blame Floyd for not fighting "elite" fighters, especially at 140, when none of them wanted to fight. At 147, Margarito was bad timing, as Floyd was clearly gunning for an Oscar fight. But since that fight is off the table, let's see what he does.

[moraleskospacisback]

he has to fight margarito, the only person he can fight besides that would be winky wright, otherwize hes just duckin, cause oscar said hes good for the rest of the year and floyd has one more fight b4 the supposed oscar fight and he has to either fight margarito or winky thats all there is to it or else he will be dodging. Theres nobody else to fight, mosley would be aight but not really cause its not as risky as the wright margarito fights are imo, but who else is there? Hatton dont want to fight, cotto aint ready, quintana isnt big enough yet and neither is paul williams, tszyu doesnt look to be coming back, so he has to fight margarito or wright, if he fights Baldomir(if he beats gatti) then he is a fraud and ill be so heated.

[King Koyle]

ring magazine makes pbf p4p #1, everybody else just nods and says ok your right!

The P4P list is a mythical list.It's just a boxing fans individual opinion.Nothing more!I don't think people follow everything that ring magazine prints.Some people like myself just feel that Floyd should be number one.

[iron mike tyson]

mayweather is #1 for a reason i wouldnt call myself a fan , far from it , but id call myself a big admirer.

[deliveryman]

Right now Floyd is just examining his options... Given by Floyd's comments about Margarito in the chat yesterday, it seems like he's going to fight Margarito for the 8 Mill.

[Breakbeat]

Yeah baby.....

I'm dl'ing his whole career right now........16.9GB worth

[IwatchBoxing]

Why didnt you hitup youtube before making this thread

hes #1 because of his skills, very talented and wins his fights impressively, has good accomplishments even if their mostly in the lowerweights.

[Super_Lightweight]

I agree that Floyd's resume is better at 130-135, than it is at 140-147.

But I don't see how you can blame Floyd for that. Can we please examine the situation?

Floyd's plan, which he stated over and over and over again was, fight Gatti at 140 on PPV, to set up a Kostya fight. Except Gatti for the life of him refused to fight Mayweather.

So Floyd had to basically force it: He fought Corely as a tune up and Brussles for as a WBC Title Eliminator to become the WBC #1 Contender, forcing Gatti to fight him or he'll be stripped. He didn't want to ACTUALLY fight Brussles.

Okay, so he finally sets up a fight with Gatti. And at the same time, Ricky Hatton bursts onto the world stage with his upset win over Kostya Tszyu. Also at this time Cotto is really starting to make some noise.

Both Ricky and Cotto come to Floyd's fight with Gatti, and they sit RINGSIDE... to try and build a potiental future fight with the winner of the fight. Except we all know what Floyd did to Gatti and Hatton NOR Cotto wanted anything to do with Mayweather after that fight. Ricky took his ass all the way back to England in a heartbeat and fought Carlos Maussa, after the performance Mayweather put on.

So instead of Floyd sitting picking ass waiting for Hatton and Cotto to decide "when they're ready," Floyd moves up to welter and schedules to fight at the time UNDISPUTED CHAMP Zab Judah. So both fighters agree to take 1 fight as a build-up towards their PPV fight. Floyd picks a slick south-paw (like Judah is) in Sharmba Mitchell, and Zab Judah selects Baldomir to look good against... except Zab being the inconsistent ****** that he is, LOSES. Which screws everything up, and took a lot of the luster off of that fight. But since they were scheduled the fight anyway, and after some re-negotiation they fought.

Then Oscar beats Mayorga, and the chances of an Oscar-Floyd fight happening never seemed better... a chance where Floyd could make anywhere in the range of $15-25 million dollars. Yet at the same time Arum decides to offer Floyd $8 million to fight Margarito. Of course Floyd is going to go after the bigger money AND the bigger name AND the bigger challenge (in my opinion anyway) at that point. Yet people criticized him, and claimed he was "ducking" Margarito which is an absolute JOKE.

Which leads us to today, and we all know that the Arum offer is back on the table. So let's just see what Floyd does.

But there's no way in hell, you can blame Floyd for not fighting "elite" fighters, especially at 140, when none of them wanted to fight. At 147, Margarito was bad timing, as Floyd was clearly gunning for an Oscar fight. But since that fight is off the table, let's see what he does.

Gatti fought Floyd, did he not? Gatti wanted Floyd, bet your ass on that. He had little chance of winning, but don't come in here trying to convince people Gatti wanted no part of Floyd.

Anyway, back to the heart of your post...Floyd could've fought Margarito. Margarito was the man left out and Floyd easily could've fought him already.

Overall, it's easy to see why Floyd hasn't had a big fight at 140-147. But the fact remains that he did not have to share a ring with a faded Sharmba Mitchell. If he was going to 'challenge' himself by fighting Judah later on, then he could've just fought Margarito instead of Mitchell.

Either way, I see your point and good post overall. Floyd wanted some big fights and some are just not there for him. His resume at 140-147 may change over time. Right now it's mediocre for a number one p4p guy and that is partially his fault.