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  • Raggamuffin
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    #71
    Originally posted by Butch.McRae
    You didn't know the fight wasn't santioned and Top Rank pushed it through anyway? lol

    There are a few articles about the shady circumstances around that fight.
    Around the fight? I'm only concerned with what happens on the ring.

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    • JWHardin
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      #72
      Originally posted by JcLazyX210
      Crawford was a natural bigger man and yes that difference in height with Crawford reach made the difference.
      Now Crawford is getting criticized for fighting Benevidez who won his title eliminator, is undefeated, and has height and reach advantages on crawford. Naturally bigger too.

      Damn, Crawford can't win.

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      • Raggamuffin
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        #73
        Originally posted by JcLazyX210
        It does. It's called waiting it out. He could had fought Danny at any time if he wanted. Just what Khan did to Kell Brook. Just like what everybody in 147 is going to do to Spence. We already know which fighters are going to leave the division Cuz they having trouble with weight. Crawford would not be undisputed champion, if Danny , Khan, Peterson and Lucas was still at 140. I will not even unity his 147 WBO belt until 2020 at this rate. Remember this comment.
        This was a ****en clown answer lmao. Waiting it out, lmao. You the armchair can't change boxing history. These guys moved up. Matthysse is done, Peterson is done...and Danny and Khan are still around. We will see what the future holds for all 3.

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        • Raggamuffin
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          #74
          Originally posted by JcLazyX210
          Crawford was a natural bigger man and yes that difference in height with Crawford reach made the difference.
          Why didn't Gamboa pull a Mayorga on Forrest, lmao. ****en crybaby. Waaaaaaa waaaaaa!!!

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          • BigStomps
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            #75
            Originally posted by Butch.McRae
            Cut the b.s.

            Crawford will be 31 in a few weeks and has been a pro for 10 years.

            Spence is 28 and has been a pro for just over 5 years.

            Spence will have a better resume by any objective standard by the middle of 2019.

            All of Haymon's 147 guys at the top have a better CV than Crawford. Stop making excuses for his career. He's been a pro for a decade.

            "It ain't how many fights you had. It's who you fought." Period. His career is full of hype. He meets the eye test but we don't know his level.
            If that's your opinion then that's on you. All I'm saying is how can you blame Crawford for his opponents?? He fights whoever they put in front of him. He ducks nobody!
            As far as him signing with Bob Arum well that's his choice. Nobody knows exactly how much he's being paid by Arum.. Maybe uncle Bob made Crawford a contract he couldn't refuse?? We don't know that! But you can't blame a fighter for going after the money in the sport of boxing. Boxing is a dangerous, brutal sport and I believe boxer's should be well compensated for fighting.
            That other guy was saying that Crawford only fights bums and asking when he's gonna step up.. I told him Crawford fights whoever they put in front of him. So that's how this conversation started.
            But how come Spence isn't fighting the top dogs under PBC?? I don't believe he's afraid but you can't force people to fight someone.
            Spence fights whoever they put in front of him too.
            That's all I'm saying. You can't blame a guy for all the bullshet, the politics, and the ducking that goes on in boxing. Cause both Crawford and Spence are true warriors and will fight anyone.
            That's all I'm saying!

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            • BigStomps
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              #76
              Originally posted by JcLazyX210
              Well Spence just did a title defense that's mandatory. Danny is tied up, porter is tied up, Keith is injured so he is side lined by dates. Crawford is sideline with bums besides of top rank. Can we agree with this? The difference with AL and Bob is al has all the good fighters under him so if you want to be the top welterweight you have to fight al Harmon fighters which Bob will most likely block unless it's ppv.
              Look we can't get mad for Crawford signing to Top Rank. Maybe uncle Bob made Crawford a contract he couldn't refuse. We don't know that. Maybe he's being paid a shet-load of money by Top Rank...
              You can't blame a guy for going after the money in boxing.
              This is prize fighting and fighters want that prize. They wanna get paid!
              Yeah Spence is under PBC with all the other top welterweights but he's been calling all of them out for two years now! He didn't just call them out recently...
              And he still can't get none of them in the ring.
              All I'm saying is you can't blame Crawford or Spence for who they fight. They are both warriors and they'll fight whoever they put in front of them. That's all I'm saying.

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              • Madison Boxing
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                #77
                Originally posted by BigStomps
                Look we can't get mad for Crawford signing to Top Rank. Maybe uncle Bob made Crawford a contract he couldn't refuse. We don't know that. Maybe he's being paid a shet-load of money by Top Rank...
                You can't blame a guy for going after the money in boxing.
                This is prize fighting and fighters want that prize. They wanna get paid!
                Yeah Spence is under PBC with all the other top welterweights but he's been calling all of them out for two years now! He didn't just call them out recently...
                And he still can't get none of them in the ring.
                All I'm saying is you can't blame Crawford or Spence for who they fight. They are both warriors and they'll fight whoever they put in front of them. That's all I'm saying.
                yes we can. if he knew he was gonna get in house slop and he signed for in house slop, hes just as much to blame as arum. Saying that, im still not buying this 'arum stopping him fighting others' bull****. lomachenko didnt have too many problems getting the linares fight done

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                • chrisJS
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by BigStomps
                  Look we can't get mad for Crawford signing to Top Rank. Maybe uncle Bob made Crawford a contract he couldn't refuse. We don't know that. Maybe he's being paid a shet-load of money by Top Rank...
                  You can't blame a guy for going after the money in boxing.
                  This is prize fighting and fighters want that prize. They wanna get paid!
                  Yeah Spence is under PBC with all the other top welterweights but he's been calling all of them out for two years now! He didn't just call them out recently...
                  And he still can't get none of them in the ring.
                  All I'm saying is you can't blame Crawford or Spence for who they fight. They are both warriors and they'll fight whoever they put in front of them. That's all I'm saying.
                  Top Rank signing him was great for his career. Got him some good, high profile under card spots and a title shot fairly quickly. They delivered the best possible opponent in Gamboa for his 1st defense and then the #2 man in the division in Beltran. They also got him the necessary fights to unify the 140-division. He won four belts in three fights including two opponents with different promoters.

                  They got him a gimme in his first 147 fight but it's the only belt that there's really access to since the others are part of PBC who are keeping it in-house.

                  I agree that it's lame that Boxing fans always want to paint fighters to be duckers, cowards etc; Most world class fighters would fight anyone and want the biggest fights. Fans are too dumb or just too ignorant to accept sometimes there is a process.

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                  • chrisJS
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by The Madison
                    yes we can. if he knew he was gonna get in house slop and he signed for in house slop, hes just as much to blame as arum. Saying that, im still not buying this 'arum stopping him fighting others' bull****. lomachenko didnt have too many problems getting the linares fight done
                    Refer to my post above. Crawford won the 135-title from a different promoters fighter, then the best available fight and opponent (Gamboa) was with another promoter and at 140 his 4 titles in 3 fights included fights against boxers of two different promoters (Indongo and Dulorme). He fought exactly what was in the way of preventing him cleaning out 135 and becoming undisputed at 140.

                    It's hard to bash a guy because the talent pool wasn't to your satisfaction in two separate divisions. That would be akin to bashing GGG for not being a super flyweight.
                    Last edited by chrisJS; 08-23-2018, 03:36 PM.

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                    • BigStomps
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by The Madison
                      yes we can. if he knew he was gonna get in house slop and he signed for in house slop, hes just as much to blame as arum. Saying that, im still not buying this 'arum stopping him fighting others' bull****. lomachenko didnt have too many problems getting the linares fight done
                      I'm Willing to bet uncle Bob didn't tell Crawford he'll be fighting in-house fights only.
                      But you said so yourself and I'm with you on this...
                      I don't believe uncle Bob would block a Crawford fight against any of the top PBC guys.. But it's not only up to him. Peope need to remember that and stop blaming uncle Bob for everything.
                      And I don't even like that old punk motherfuccer uncle Bob but I'm just keeping it real here!

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