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  • 1hourRun
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    #11
    Originally posted by Abovetheclouds
    BT Sport throwing money at him apparently.
    You mean Frank Warren?

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    • Abovetheclouds
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      #12
      Originally posted by 1hourRun
      You mean Frank Warren?
      BT Sport are providing the cash for Frank Warren to pay Fury yeah.

      BT Sport are Sky Sports main rival in the UK.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Abovetheclouds
        BT Sport are providing the cash for Frank Warren to pay Fury yeah.

        BT Sport are Sky Sports main rival in the UK.
        I see, makes sense now - no way Warren would pay for that crap, let the BT subscribers pick up the tab.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Ajvar
          It's a shame for americans that their most exciting boxer isn't that popular because Wilder has nothing to be ashamed for. He destroys opponents and does that in a flash-fire fashion.
          Why is it a shame? Boxing has many structural issues that has led to it's sharp decline in general popularity here. Only an exceptional character/fighter like Floyd could garner the public's attention despite the b.s. in boxing.

          The big fights here still out earn anything the European market has ever seen. When boxing gets out of its own way, this market is still the one that makes true fortunes for fighters. Just look at the money Canelo and GGG generated and will generate in a few weeks. Their live gate was around $30 million and the PPV was $110 million. (That's $85 million for the fighters to split btw) That's what we do here when there's a true fight on the line. As big as AJ is there, his fights have a ceiling of about $50 million in total revenue (live gate and PPV). America is still the place where boxing makes it's money.

          Fury v. Wilder could be a decent success and pull a live gate of $10 - $15 million and generate PPV revenue of $20 - $30 million (or 300k - 600k in PPV buys). It's just a different level here. We don't need 1000 drunk people in a lobby to show we support boxing lol We do it with our wallets when appropriate.

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            #15
            Originally posted by 1hourRun
            What is Jigglypuffs purses for Sefari and Pianeta combined?
            Let’s not mention purses or turn our noses at how much a boxer earns. It’s corny and for a Wilder fan to do it it’s god damn ******. How much did Wilder earn for Ortiz and Stiverne ?...... who cares.

            How much did Joshua earn combined against Takam and Parker.? It’s a boring topic because there is only one outright winner.

            Look how happy Deontay is now I’ve never seen him smile so much.Tyson is a blessing. He will start earning what he should have been earning years ago. Look at the love he is getting over here and he is the supposed villain .

            As you know I’m a AJ fan but I will be rooting for Deontay to beat Fury . It’s actually a great fight

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              #16
              Originally posted by Butch.McRae
              Why is it a shame? Boxing has many structural issues that has led to it's sharp decline in general popularity here. Only an exceptional character/fighter like Floyd could garner the public's attention despite the b.s. in boxing.

              The big fights here still out earn anything the European market has ever seen. When boxing gets out of its own way, this market is still the one that makes true fortunes for fighters. Just look at the money Canelo and GGG generated and will generate in a few weeks. Their live gate was around $30 million and the PPV was $110 million. (That's $85 million for the fighters to split btw) That's what we do here when there's a true fight on the line. As big as AJ is there, his fights have a ceiling of about $50 million in total revenue (live gate and PPV). America is still the place where boxing makes it's money.

              Fury v. Wilder could be a decent success and pull a live gate of $10 - $15 million and generate PPV revenue of $20 - $30 million (or 300k - 600k in PPV buys). It's just a different level here. We don't need 1000 drunk people in a lobby to show we support boxing lol We do it with our wallets when appropriate.
              Population is a big help plus Canelo is Mexican ..... they love their boxing

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                #17
                Originally posted by 1hourRun
                What is Jigglypuffs purses for Sefari and Pianeta combined?
                ... not disclosed... (yet)...

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Butch.McRae
                  Why is it a shame? Boxing has many structural issues that has led to it's sharp decline in general popularity here. Only an exceptional character/fighter like Floyd could garner the public's attention despite the b.s. in boxing.

                  The big fights here still out earn anything the European market has ever seen. When boxing gets out of its own way, this market is still the one that makes true fortunes for fighters. Just look at the money Canelo and GGG generated and will generate in a few weeks. Their live gate was around $30 million and the PPV was $110 million. (That's $85 million for the fighters to split btw) That's what we do here when there's a true fight on the line. As big as AJ is there, his fights have a ceiling of about $50 million in total revenue (live gate and PPV). America is still the place where boxing makes it's money.

                  Fury v. Wilder could be a decent success and pull a live gate of $10 - $15 million and generate PPV revenue of $20 - $30 million (or 300k - 600k in PPV buys). It's just a different level here. We don't need 1000 drunk people in a lobby to show we support boxing lol We do it with our wallets when appropriate.
                  To keep it real, if I had to judge between the Joe Louis Era, The Ali Era, the Tyson Era, the Klitschko Era, and "The Present," "The Present" is probably the worst! NOT EVERY FIGHT DESERVES TO BE A PPV! Floyd and Manny f**ked up the game, but at least they were high-level fighters! Wilder, Fury and Joshua are not high-level fighters like Tyson, Lewis, Bowe and Holyfield! These are PPV WORTHY FIGHTS:

                  1) Canelo vs. GGG
                  2) Canelo vs. Spence
                  3) Mikey Garcia vs. Lomachenko
                  4) Spence vs. Mikey Garcia
                  5) Spence vs. Crawford

                  Other than that, I really don't see true PPV worthy fights! There are great fights that I want to see, like Tank vs. Farmer, Tank vs. Mikey, Tank vs. Loma, Loma vs. Pacquiao, Spence vs. Thurman, Charlo vs. Jacobs, Charlo vs. Hurd, Hurd vs. Munguia, and Wilder vs. Joshua, but they are not necessarily PPV WORTHY! They might be ONLY because we've paid for lesser fights in the past!
                  Last edited by Bronx2245; 08-18-2018, 07:24 AM.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Noelanthony
                    Let’s not mention purses or turn our noses at how much a boxer earns. It’s corny and for a Wilder fan to do it it’s god damn ******. How much did Wilder earn for Ortiz and Stiverne ?...... who cares.
                    What do you think the thread is about?


                    How much did Joshua earn combined against Takam and Parker.? It’s a boring topic because there is only one outright winner.
                    You missed the topic.


                    Look how happy Deontay is now I’ve never seen him smile so much.Tyson is a blessing. He will start earning what he should have been earning years ago. Look at the love he is getting over here and he is the supposed villain .
                    He should be, Deontay got over on Anthony Joshua and Eddie Hearns.


                    As you know I’m a AJ fan but I will be rooting for Deontay to beat Fury . It’s actually a great fight

                    Originally posted by MDPopescu
                    ... not disclosed... (yet)...
                    Sparring sessions are paid in advance.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Bronx2245
                      To keep it real, if I had to judge between the Joe Louis Era, The Ali Era, the Tyson Era, the Klitschko Era, and "The Present," "The Present" is probably the worst! NOT EVERY FIGHT DESERVES TO BE A PPV! Floyd and Manny f**ked up the game, but at least they were high-level fighters! Wilder, Fury and Joshua are not high-level fighters like Tyson, Lewis, Bowe and Holyfield! These are PPV WORTHY FIGHTS:

                      1) Canelo vs. GGG
                      2) Canelo vs. Spence
                      3) Mikey Garcia vs. Lomachenko
                      4) Spence vs. Mikey Garcia
                      5) Spence vs. Crawford

                      Other than that, I really don't see true PPV worthy fights! There are great fights that I want to see, like Tank vs. Farmer, Tank vs. Mikey, Tank vs. Loma, Loma vs. Pacquiao, Spence vs. Thurman, Charlo vs. Jacobs, Charlo vs. Hurd, Hurd vs. Munguia, and Wilder vs. Joshua, but they are not necessarily PPV WORTHY! They might be ONLY because we've paid for lesser fights in the past!
                      Oh, I agree. I just hate when posters talk about the American market, ignoring the fact that we've been through a lot of weird structural changes (premium cable, promotional beefs, PPV nonsense etc.) that have basically regulated the sport to it's current state. Despite all of this, we will still spend that money when appropriate.

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