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  • The Big Dunn
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    #11
    Originally posted by Bronx2245
    Neither Beltran or Pedraza require a tune-up. In fact, they are the tune-up for the Pacquiao vs. Lomachenko fight!
    Originally posted by Bronx2245
    Loma is so much better than either fighter, that the surgery doesn't make a difference. If he's healthy enough to train, he'll beat either one...EASY!
    Agree on both points.

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    • HarvardBlue
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      #12
      Beltran is a tough fighter but Lomachenko should beat him easily. Pedraza is the easier if the two.

      Still don't see the Garcia fight happening anytime soon.

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        #13
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn
        Agree on both points.
        What do you think Hurd should do? I heard he's looking for a soft touch before Charlo, but I'm a little worried about that. Why?

        A summit of all major boxing sanctioning bodies Wednesday in Los Angeles led to the consensus to incorporate fight-day weigh-ins to better address the sport’s dangers of weight cutting, extreme dehydration and rapid rehydration.

        “It’s the hurt sport. There’s going to be some injuries, but we don’t need to turn a blind eye to it when we know it can be safer,” said Dr. Paul Wallace, a longtime ringside physician.

        California State Athletic Commission Executive Officer Andy Foster summoned World Boxing Council President Mauricio Sulaiman, World Boxing Organization head Francisco “Paco” Valcarcel and International Boxing Federation President Darryl Peoples among others for the session.

        Foster pointed to a commission study of 754 boxers that found 164 inflated more than 10 percent beyond their official day-before weigh-in figure.

        That shows not only the significance of the original weight cut, but the concern that the cut followed by sharp rehydrating leaves the body susceptible to a slew of problems, including heart, kidney and brain issues, along with kidney weakness, drowsiness and decreased vision and alertness.

        “We see people lose 20 to 25 percent of their weight, regain it and fight in a championship fight,” Wallace warned. “No rational person can say that’s OK.”

        The commission heads agreed to begin fight-day weigh-ins as soon as possible and share the data with the Assn. of Boxing Commissions and the California commission for further discussion on the matter...

        The sanctioning bodies agreed that intravenous rehydration practices should be banned, while acknowledging a debate is required to establish what time a fight-day weigh-in would occur. Foster said he prefers doing it when the fighters arrive at the venue.


        Showtime President Stephen Espinoza addressed what one official referred to as “the elephant in the room” by noting the potential backlash it would cause by scrapping a fight based on a weigh-in just a few hours before a bout.

        “I applaud you for being proactive,” Espinoza said. “As a TV executive, that [last-hour cancellation] is a nightmare. As a fan-experience issue, you’ll have people who have spent money to watch or who’ve flown in for a fight. I don’t want the backlash of losing fans.”

        Foster answered “we can’t be talking about killing fights,” but urged the sanctioning bodies to deprive violating boxers of a possible 10 percent rehydration limit from winning a belt.

        Others pushed for all trainers and fighters to receive improved education about proper, healthful weight loss, with the mission to have fighters slotted in weight divisions as close to their natural weight as possible.

        “There is a natural resistance to change, but the WBC will abide 100 percent and work on whatever needs to be done to improve fighter safety,” Sulaiman said. “There has to be a step-by-step plan with specific actions for all of us to follow.”

        A summit of all major boxing sanctioning bodies Wednesday in Los Angeles led to the consensus to incorporate fight-day weigh-ins to better address the sport’s dangers of weight cutting, extreme dehydration and rapid rehydration.


        This report is talking about 2020, but I've seen other reports talking about over 10% weight, fines of 10%, and no belts, and also they proposed starting in January 2019! Of course, this is all due to the kid who almost died, in attempt to make weight for Ramirez. 2019 might be time for Hurd to move to 160 or higher.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Bronx2245
          What do you think Hurd should do? I heard he's looking for a soft touch before Charlo, but I'm a little worried about that. Why?

          A summit of all major boxing sanctioning bodies Wednesday in Los Angeles led to the consensus to incorporate fight-day weigh-ins to better address the sport’s dangers of weight cutting, extreme dehydration and rapid rehydration.

          “It’s the hurt sport. There’s going to be some injuries, but we don’t need to turn a blind eye to it when we know it can be safer,” said Dr. Paul Wallace, a longtime ringside physician.

          California State Athletic Commission Executive Officer Andy Foster summoned World Boxing Council President Mauricio Sulaiman, World Boxing Organization head Francisco “Paco” Valcarcel and International Boxing Federation President Darryl Peoples among others for the session.

          Foster pointed to a commission study of 754 boxers that found 164 inflated more than 10 percent beyond their official day-before weigh-in figure.

          That shows not only the significance of the original weight cut, but the concern that the cut followed by sharp rehydrating leaves the body susceptible to a slew of problems, including heart, kidney and brain issues, along with kidney weakness, drowsiness and decreased vision and alertness.

          “We see people lose 20 to 25 percent of their weight, regain it and fight in a championship fight,” Wallace warned. “No rational person can say that’s OK.”

          The commission heads agreed to begin fight-day weigh-ins as soon as possible and share the data with the Assn. of Boxing Commissions and the California commission for further discussion on the matter...

          The sanctioning bodies agreed that intravenous rehydration practices should be banned, while acknowledging a debate is required to establish what time a fight-day weigh-in would occur. Foster said he prefers doing it when the fighters arrive at the venue.


          Showtime President Stephen Espinoza addressed what one official referred to as “the elephant in the room” by noting the potential backlash it would cause by scrapping a fight based on a weigh-in just a few hours before a bout.

          “I applaud you for being proactive,” Espinoza said. “As a TV executive, that [last-hour cancellation] is a nightmare. As a fan-experience issue, you’ll have people who have spent money to watch or who’ve flown in for a fight. I don’t want the backlash of losing fans.”

          Foster answered “we can’t be talking about killing fights,” but urged the sanctioning bodies to deprive violating boxers of a possible 10 percent rehydration limit from winning a belt.

          Others pushed for all trainers and fighters to receive improved education about proper, healthful weight loss, with the mission to have fighters slotted in weight divisions as close to their natural weight as possible.

          “There is a natural resistance to change, but the WBC will abide 100 percent and work on whatever needs to be done to improve fighter safety,” Sulaiman said. “There has to be a step-by-step plan with specific actions for all of us to follow.”

          A summit of all major boxing sanctioning bodies Wednesday in Los Angeles led to the consensus to incorporate fight-day weigh-ins to better address the sport’s dangers of weight cutting, extreme dehydration and rapid rehydration.


          This report is talking about 2020, but I've seen other reports talking about over 10% weight, fines of 10%, and no belts, and also they proposed starting in January 2019! Of course, this is all due to the kid who almost died, in attempt to make weight for Ramirez. 2019 might be time for Hurd to move to 160 or higher.
          I think Hurd should try and stay at 154 for as long as he can then move up, unless he gets a fight with GGG or Canelo. He obviously should jump at one of those.

          The changes in weigh in will be very interesting.

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          • Bronx2245
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            #15
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn
            I think Hurd should try and stay at 154 for as long as he can then move up, unless he gets a fight with GGG or Canelo. He obviously should jump at one of those.

            The changes in weigh in will be very interesting.
            Yeah it will! 154 + 15.4 = 169.4 I don't think Hurd is lower than 170lbs. on fight night, at least none that I've seen. I also think how this might affect Canelo, Thurman, Spence Jr., and Mikey Garcia, just to name a few!

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            • BOXING-SCRIBE
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              #16
              He still has to beat Pedraza

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                #17
                Beltran beats Pedraza

                Originally posted by BOXING-SCRIBE
                He still has to beat Pedraza
                Pedraza didn't show us anything in his last fight. Beltran can stop him, Pedraza lacks the power.

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                • BOXING-SCRIBE
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by globalfitness
                  Pedraza didn't show us anything in his last fight. Beltran can stop him, Pedraza lacks the power.
                  SMH..stop.

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                    #19
                    Mikey will clear out the division

                    No problem for Mikey- he’ll clear out 135 before the weight-in changes kick in, and then he’ll move up (either 140 or welterweight).

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                      #20
                      The only person beating Loma is either a much taller boxer with decent pop or some brawler not scared to take a punch that comes in significantly heavier.

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