Boxing is funny, Crawford couldnt even qualify for the Olympic team

[Boksfan]

Nothing funny about it Larry, in amateurs he couldn't juice because of PED tests, now Crawford is roided to the gills so he can beat all of them.

[Raggamuffin]

Lol diaz and Gamboa are half the size of Crawford are we supposed to impressed by that?

What does size have to do with it lmao!!!???

[ShoulderRoll]

Look at how many great pro fighters Mexico has produced.

How many of them were Olympic medalists?

[-DSG-]

What does size have to do with it lmao!!!???

Uh it has a lot to do with it lmao!

[KTFOKING]

Sadam Ali beat him too, surprisingly. Although back then Ali might have been using PEDs (tested positive for a stimulant/wouldn't surprise me if he still was using it).

But here's the thing: the amateurs are extremely competitive. There are so many talented and skilled fighters who never turn professional, that's a fact.

Check this fight out, Errol Spence Jr. vs. Sapiyev--- although this isn't the guy he lost to in the Olympics, this is the dude that beat him at Worlds 2011 (and he was a hell of an amateur boxer):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=172&v=nQFmIYgecvw

It just goes to show, the American amateur system is very weak. Our fighters all have so much talent, but aren't brought up well compared to other countries. Only in the professionals do our guys really shine, because they probably start earning money to provide better coaching, training, dieting, and so forth...


tldr; American amateur boxing lacks funding to provide proper training and support. Only once fighters become Professional and stand to gain lots of money do they start getting the support they need to become greater fighters.

That's the thing, the American amateur system pales in comparison compared to other top amateur programs. The government encourages them to stay amateur longer than they may hope to by taking care of them if they medal in the Olympics or other meets. They also have far better coaching and training. That is starting to change with the addition of Billy Walsh. It is by no coincidence the US team had multiple medalist in 2016 after failing to medal in 2012. And no coincidence you are starting to see more and more US amateurs beating top Cubans in meets where once it was all Cuba.

But man were the 2006 national tournaments stacked with talent. You had Crawford, DSG, Mikey Garcia, Thurman, Porter, Jacobs, Andrade, GRJ, etc.

[Raggamuffin]

Uh it has a lot to do with it lmao!

Uh no it doesn't, lmao.

[JOITATS]

you cannot compare

because boxers do not physically age well with time
most decorated amateurs start early, but physically over peak by the time they reach the pros
lomachenko is a rare exception

crawford is in his peak, best condition now

[Mister Wolf]

Lol diaz and Gamboa are half the size of Crawford are we supposed to impressed by that?

Diaz had no problem beating fighters just as tall or taller than Crawford his whole career including the amateurs, but since Crawford dominated him it was because of height? Diaz rehydrated 4 pounds heavier than Crawford they day of fight weight.

[Bjl12]

Spence fizzled in the Olympics too, look at him now.

Olympic pedigree doesn't always define a fighter. I mean look at Audley Harrison, lol.

...its FAR TOO EARLY to say "look at him now". Spence has proven hes a contender and nothing else.

Beating up an old LP at WW and Kell Brook at WW after he fought at 160 and returned from orbital fracture (and was 4-4 after 8 rounds before the ww-turned-mw gassed from excess muscle) proves very little. I am FAR from sold on Errol. In fact I think hes there for the taking.

Thurman, Danny, and Shawn P are C and maybe C+ fighters. Errol is B- so he'll beat those three. I cannot see how Errol beats TC though - who is at least B+ (conquering LW and JWW in dominant fashion) whereas Errol is almost 30 and still working on his 1st division.

[Bjl12]

Nothing funny about it Larry, in amateurs he couldn't juice because of PED tests, now Crawford is roided to the gills so he can beat all of them.

Are you confusing Crawford with Pacquiao and Golovkin???

What the F????