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  • Queen_Leia
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    #41
    Originally posted by Raggamuffin
    I don't care who Danny faced or who you think has fought the better comp. Buds style imo would be too much for Danny.

    James Toney faced better comp than Roy Jones Jr and Roy whopped his ass so that doesn't mean squat when t comes to Danny and Bud. Bud is pfp the est fighter in the world.

    Facing better comp and beating them is one thing, but Danny hasn't beaten at least 3 guys cleanly. As a matter of fact many think he lost to Peterson and Herrera. Bud wouldn't let either of them come close to giving him a fight. And Buds resume isn't too shabby either. There is a reason why Bud is ranked pfp the best. And his resume is only a piece as to why he gets those kind of props.

    When you fight elite competition, you struggle...it should never be easy. I'm not calling Herrera elite by the way but he is tough.

    You have your opinion (Bud beats Swift) and I have mine (Swift beats Bud). The best name of Crawford record, Garcia beats them, however I don't know if Crawford beats the best name of Garcia record...plus Garcia is 2-1 against Crawford in the amateurs.

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    • Raggamuffin
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      #42
      Originally posted by Queen_Leia
      When you fight elite competition, you struggle...it should never be easy. I'm not calling Herrera elite by the way but he is tough.

      You have your opinion (Bud beats Swift) and I have mine (Swift beats Bud). The best name of Crawford record, Garcia beats them, however I don't know if Crawford beats the best name of Garcia record...plus Garcia is 2-1 against Crawford in the amateurs.
      The amateurs don't mean Jack here and Danny didn't fight Postol so I don't know if he would've beat him at 140 since he left the division. And Bud would wipe the floor with everyone on Danny's resume including Danny and the guy that he's lost to in Thurman.

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        #43
        Originally posted by Raggamuffin
        The amateurs don't mean Jack here and Danny didn't fight Postol so I don't know if he would've beat him at 140 since he left the division. And Bud would wipe the floor with everyone on Danny's resume including Danny and the guy that he's lost to in Thurman.
        Garcia can't beat Postol...Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha.

        Crawford wipes the floor with Thurman?!?!...lol. Now I know you have a bias towards Crawford and you're swinging off his.

        Spence, who I think is the best 147, wouldn't even wipe the floor with Thurman. He'd win but Thurman is a elite fighter and it would be close until Spence stops him.

        Thurman, Garcia & Spence beats Crawford....5hit, I think Porter gives him hell.

        If the best win you can pull from Crawford resume is Postol, you have no argument at all.

        Also saying the amateur means jack shows your ignorance of Boxing.

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          #44
          Originally posted by Queen_Leia
          When you fight elite competition, you struggle...it should never be easy. I'm not calling Herrera elite by the way but he is tough.

          You have your opinion (Bud beats Swift) and I have mine (Swift beats Bud). The best name of Crawford record, Garcia beats them, however I don't know if Crawford beats the best name of Garcia record...plus Garcia is 2-1 against Crawford in the amateurs.
          They were 1-1 as amateurs.

          I like both fighters but feel Danny plateaued somewhat after the Mattheyse win. Crawford has improved fight by fight and is in the conversation for worlds best fighter currently and the style match is all wrong for Danny. Slow feet, has to get set to throw, limited head movement. He's got good timing, counter punching and IQ though which can keep him in a fight but Crawford has too many aces and would likely just box circles around him.

          For what it's worth I did feel he lost clearly to Herrera and razor thin close to Peterson. I hope he beats Porter and think he will and would like the fight because it has a history and a bit of a rivalrly. I don't want to see Crawford fighting too many fights the level of Benavidez.

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          • Raggamuffin
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            #45
            Originally posted by Queen_Leia
            Garcia can't beat Postol...Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha.

            Crawford wipes the floor with Thurman?!?!...lol. Now I know you have a bias towards Crawford and you're swinging off his.

            Spence, who I think is the best 147, wouldn't even wipe the floor with Thurman. He'd win but Thurman is a elite fighter and it would be close until Spence stops him.

            Thurman, Garcia & Spence beats Crawford....5hit, I think Porter gives him hell.

            If the best win you can pull from Crawford resume is Postol, you have no argument at all.

            Also saying the amateur means jack shows your ignorance of Boxing.
            First of all let me clean this garbage up right now lmao.

            Before Danny moved up he was supposed to fight Postol. He moved up. I'm a Garcia fan, but that doesn't mean that at the time he beats Postol. **** are you think that 147 Danny is fighting 140 Postol. You have the memory of Postols last loss in your head lmao.

            At the time Herrera had given Danny hell and many thought that he won and thought that Postol could do the same thing. Everyone was saying Danny ran to 147 rather than fight him because he fought two catchweight fights before officially going to 147. I defended Danny alt 2004 lmao.

            Second, ill address the garbage that you wrote about Spence, Porter and Thurman in one sentence.

            None of the 3 give Bud a fight. None of the 3. They don't have the style to beat Bud. You might think so, but I don't lol.

            I don't care how you thought that Porter and Thurman fought each their lmao. And Spence is still untested. Thurman Porter was a good scrap but Thurman couldn't fight inside and Porter couldn't box. That's why imo neither can give Bud a fight. Bud can do both fight inside and box. Spence is too slow for Bud. That's why it won't be a fight. That's why Bud is at 147 lmao. That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it! Haha

            And you claiming that fighters at a higher weight would give Bud hell is your OPINION never forget that lmao. I notice that you didn't mention Matthysse as a guy who would give Bud a fight lmao. Talking about Danny beats all of Buds comp lmao. Simpleton. He might and he should. I still would've liked to see him fight Diaz and Postol at 140. Diaz gave Peterson hell where some thought that he won, and Postol stopped Mathysse who Danny decisioned. You act like you're spitting facts lmao. You have an opinion just like me lmao.

            And once an amateur graduates from amateur to pro, that means jack at the pro level. It didn't help Howard Davis or even Wlad K in the beginning along with many others so **** are you talking about lmao. You learn the basics in the amateurs and learn your craft every day as a pro.

            That's how you clean up garbage.

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            • Madison Boxing
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              #46
              bud talking **** about someone elses resume? really? REALLY?

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                #47
                They have history from the AMs fighting twice and each having a win over the other.

                Danny's 140 resume is solid. Since the Matthysse fight though...



                Danny has more "Names" but as I said in a previous post, names can be very subjective. Danny's signature wins for me are the Khan and Matthysse fights. But those fights were YEARS ago and the next high profile fight Danny took...he lost (with 2 questionable wins prior). Bud's best wins are Postol and Gamboa. But if we were to put both Danny and Bud to fight in the Spring of next year I'd be hard pressed to see Crawford NOT be the favorite in that fight even if slightly. Boxing's always a "What Have You Done For Me Lately" type of Sport and Danny hasn't done anything of merit since 2013. How that plays out next week against Porter we shall see.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by dibzvincent143
                  Let’s see this fight. As far as I know crawford hasn’t fought anyone close to Garcia’s level as well. It’d be good for his resume.

                  Thurman-crawford
                  Thurman-spence
                  Garcia-spence
                  Garcia-crawford
                  Porter-crawford
                  Spence-crawford

                  Are all mouth watering fights to me though I don’t really like em guys.

                  Danny has grown on me a bit, maybe because i’ve watched him longer, but he looks trash sometimes
                  Yes, let's see some of these fights!

                  Until Crawford actually beats some of the top guys at 147 it's all just chatter!

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                  • Raggamuffin
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                    #49
                    When it's all said and done Bud will be crowned the best WW in the world. He's beaten the guy who beat or at least gave Pac hell in his very first fight at WW., and he's on the rise. It's going to take one of those big JMWs to beat Bud imo. Skills pay the bills and none of these WW's has the skill to beat Bud. None of them. They aren't strong enough either. And we're going to find out soon enough, lmao. Bud is unblemished and pfp the best fighter in the world. He's thought highly of for a reason. Skills!!!
                    Last edited by Raggamuffin; 08-28-2018, 04:06 PM.

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                    • daggum
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Queen_Leia
                      Garcia can't beat Postol...Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha.

                      Crawford wipes the floor with Thurman?!?!...lol. Now I know you have a bias towards Crawford and you're swinging off his.

                      Spence, who I think is the best 147, wouldn't even wipe the floor with Thurman. He'd win but Thurman is a elite fighter and it would be close until Spence stops him.

                      Thurman, Garcia & Spence beats Crawford....5hit, I think Porter gives him hell.

                      If the best win you can pull from Crawford resume is Postol, you have no argument at all.

                      Also saying the amateur means jack shows your ignorance of Boxing.
                      maybe he can but if he struggled with herrera's jab he's going to struggle against postols.

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