ESPN has the most embarrassing pfp rankings today.

[chrisJS]

You love Joshua. And here's your respect you ****en loser.

I'm fine with Wilder dying in the ring or getting brutally injured (I actually hope for this) which makes me similar to him I guess (I merely want two wrongs to make a right) but I am a nobody and am not in the position of being a major role model.

I actually don't. I hate Wilder, but that doesn't mean I like Joshua. I don't find him all that interesting nor do I like his rabid fan base. I think they are ridiculous just like Wilder's. They are just a lot more tolerable as is Joshua over the abhorrent Wilder (who rejected the fight for HUGE money too lmao!)

Wilder said he wants a man to die in the ring, put a child through the mental scarring of seeing his dad get crippled and he assaults women and is a no good thug. Yet you and people like you all say those are excellent qualities and he should be praised for them. The sport and society in general is better off without people like him.

You get even less respect Mr. Hissyfit. You even proved you don't believe what you claim and say when I challenged you to a bet. A bet that I offered to win $0 and you the chance to win thousands AND a free trip all expenses paid to a Vegas fight. ****en coward ****en liar!

[Lomadeaux]

When will people realize that P4P lists were never meant to include heavyweights?

They're meant to include every fighter. People are so confused about pound for pound. I don't know why.

If everyone was mythically the same weight/height/size, who'd win?

[chrisJS]

Agreed, Wilder and AJ on a p4p list is a joke.

Spence is way too high probably cause of national pride but he’s a legit top 10 guy so no problem with him being on the list

Yeah, Spence is clearly one of the 10 best fighters currently operating but I notice a lot of the same people who criticize the resumes of more established fighters and use that as a reason to bring them down rank Spence really, really high and I know these people didn't think that much of even the best version of Brook.

I am fine with him being anywhere from 6-10 personally (I have him around 8 or 9) but I think there's no justifiable reason to have him over Usyk and Inoue. Two fighters with better talent, more versatility, far bigger accomplishments and much better resumes.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Yeah, Spence is clearly one of the 10 best fighters currently operating but I notice a lot of the same people who criticize the resumes of more established fighters and use that as a reason to bring them down rank Spence really, really high and I know these people didn't think that much of even the best version of Brook.

I am fine with him being anywhere from 6-10 personally (I have him around 8 or 9) but I think there's no justifiable reason to have him over Usyk and Inoue. Two fighters with better talent, more versatility, far bigger accomplishments and much better resumes.

Yeah I pretty much agree with all of that, Spence is definitely an “eye test fighter” but he doesn’t have the resume yet to be top 5.

Inoue’s a quality fighter but his resume is slightly overrated IMO. His best win is probably Narvaez who despite being a long reigning titleholder was way undersized and nearly 40. He’s beat some solid names in McDonnell, Taguchi, Kono but he’s yet to have that standout win IMO.
He’ll have the opportunity soon though in the WBSS...

[BrometheusBob.]

Any rankings that have GGG #3 and Wilder #10 are not rankings I'm taking seriously.

The guy that has GGG #1 has wilder at #6 and Oscar Valdez at #7. WTF?????????????

Cortez had Wilder 8, ahead of AJ at 9 and Manny at 10.

Teddy Atlas has the Charlo bros at 9 and 10.

I'm so pissed off after reading that. Thanks raggamuffin!!

I recall a time when the ESPN rankings were the "most respected"

[Diego Rodriguez]

Over the years the more I have looked at P4P the more I think it is just kind of ridiculous. One it is too static and two it is silly comparing big guys vs. small guys.

[Diego Rodriguez]

They're meant to include every fighter. People are so confused about pound for pound. I don't know why.

If everyone was mythically the same weight/height/size, who'd win?

Which is why P4P is dumb IMO. It is like saying if Shaq and Steph Curry where the same size who would be better? Bigger guys fighting styles are going to be different than smaller guys.

[Raggamuffin]

I actually don't. I hate Wilder, but that doesn't mean I like Joshua. I don't find him all that interesting nor do

I'm fine with Wilder dying in the ring or getting brutally injured (I actually hope for this) which makes me similar to him I guess (I merely want two wrongs to make a right) but I am a nobody and am not in the position of being a major role model.


You’re a ****en armchair. Fighters talk yet you pick and choose what comments you want to exploit like the coward ass pathetic poster that you are Joshua **** blower. I’ve never liked any of you armchairs. You’re a cancer to the sport. You pick and choose what comments to exploit when it comes to the fighters that you don’t like even when it’s just fight talk.

You’re a ****en coward in my eyes. Nobody respects you because you’re a Mr ****** ass fake ass wannabe knowitall.

Chickens always come home to roost when you wish death or hope something grave happens to someone. That’s why you’re a ****en nobody in this sport and you’ll stay a nobody in this sport.

[Raggamuffin]

Any rankings that have GGG #3 and Wilder #10 are not rankings I'm taking seriously.

The guy that has GGG #1 has wilder at #6 and Oscar Valdez at #7. WTF?????????????

Cortez had Wilder 8, ahead of AJ at 9 and Manny at 10.

Teddy Atlas has the Charlo bros at 9 and 10.

I'm so pissed off after reading that. Thanks raggamuffin!!

Dunn, I actually cracked up reading this list lmao.

[Raggamuffin]

Boxers go in hating each other and after the fight com out respecting each other give or take a few. Armchairs go in with hate and the fake hate stays. Why? Because you’re an armchair viewing from the outside in.

You can’t and won’t understand the price fighters pay to survive in this brutal sport. You can only imagine. True fans understand the his, armchairs don’t. Keep judging fighters. Nobody cares what you sensitive mofos you sensitive mofos lol think anyway lmao.

Spence isn’t in my top 10 pfp. He’s a big right away. The Charlo Brothers Joshua or Wilder don’t belong in the top 10. Canelo belongs in the top 10. ESPNs rankings are ridiculous.