Comments Thread For: Mosley: In Their Prime, De La Hoya Better Than Mayweather

[Cheek busting]

Then why did Oscar lose the Pernell? You act like Floyd wasn't quicker.

Oscar beat whitaker. He landed more cleaner punches.

Pea made him miss a lot sure but he still outlanded Pea and controlled and dictated the tempo of the fight more.

Im just guessing that a younger Oscar would have been able to outpoint Floyd. Maybe not Floyd is one if not the greatest. But you know how boxing works - and Oscar sinply had the style and at that point in his career the. Speed and the stamina to keep a high enough work rate to win..

It would have been close. Cause Oscar in 2007 still won 3-4 rounds. A quicker oscar with higher work rate could easily nick another 2-3

[djtmal]

Shane said he spoke to Floyd about moving up to fight him at 135. Floyd said no, he wanted to stay at 130.

Floyd fans called that BS.

At the end of the video, Floyd says that he wanted to stay at 130 for as long as possible. Something like 26 times to break a record. Just like Mosley said!!!!


KABADABOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!

Uh huh.........

[EdWins]

Not a funny thing that Shane & Oscar ducked Floyd at his prime.

what "prime" are you talking about? Floyd in the early 2000s? LOL nobody even knew who he was back then he got big after he fought DLH, Oscar made him a superstar.

[ADP02]

Uh huh.........

Big Dunn thought that I was trying to rewrite history but as you saw, Mosley was speaking the truth.

Floyd back then told Mosley that he didn't want to move up to 135 to fight Mosley …. he said that he wanted to stay at 130 for 26 fights! Video has Floyd admitting to that!

Then once Mosley moved up, only then did Floyd go to 135. Floyd didn't stay at 130 for 26 fights!

[alexguiness]

Oscar had that blueprint doe...

[nubianpiye]

load of ****. When they fought Floyd beat him the end.

[ADP02]

load of ****. When they fought Floyd beat him the end.

Oscar and Mosley were at the end of their careers.

Oscar was more promoter than fighter by then. Hadn't fought in a year and only 1 time in about 3 years.

Mosley had not fought in about 16 months and was close to 39.


What Mosley is stating is that if they had fought when they were prime, Floyd would have lost.

[travestyny]

Shane said he spoke to Floyd about moving up to fight him at 135. Floyd said no, he wanted to stay at 130.

Floyd fans called that BS.

At the end of the video, Floyd says that he wanted to stay at 130 for as long as possible. Something like 26 times to break a record. Just like Mosley said!!!!


KABADABOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!

OOOPS!

*And maybe the best possible fight that never happened in Mayweather's career was a lightweight matchup with Shane Mosley, but Jack Mosley said in 1999 that it would take $10 million for his son to take that fight, when neither Mayweather nor Mosley was even making $1 million for a bout, and their matchup never made sense again until it happened in 2010.

https://www.mlive.com/mayweather/201...ce_in_box.html

Mayweather first called for the fight in 1998, of which he quickly reminds people, and Mosley seems hard-pressed to recall at all.

In December of that year, Mayweather defeated Angel Manfredy and called out two undefeated potential opponents: De La Hoya, in a pie-in-the-sky request, and Mosley.

In February 1999, as Mayweather prepared for his third championship fight, and his first in Grand Rapids, against Carlos Rios of Argentina, he again called out Mosley.

Jack Mosley, who trained his son then, was there. So was Shane Mosley, who did analysis for TNT, in the only Mayweather title fight HBO did not televise. Jack Mosley said the fight could happen, as long as his son made $10 million.

At the time, Mayweather and Mosley weren’t even making seven figures, much less eight.
It was the classic method of using money to say no.
https://www.mlive.com/mayweather/201...e_mosleys.html

The fight didn’t happen in 1999, when Jack Mosley said the fight should be worth eight figures to his son at a time neither man was making seven figures.
https://www.mlive.com/mayweather/201...g_overdue.html

OFFER OF A CATCHWEIGHT WHEN MOSLEY SAID HE COULDN'T MAKE 135 ANYMORE.

Mosley is preparing to make his debut at 140 pounds on June 19, but no opponent has been selected. Mosley might have to settle at 140 pounds for a while, because it does not appear that De La Hoya is interested in a match.

''It's a ridiculous fight,'' Bob Arum, the president of Top Rank and De La Hoya's promoter, said. ''He should be thinking about fighting Floyd Mayweather. I don't believe a fight with Oscar is competitive in any way. For me to sell it on pay-per-view, it's something I can't do.''

Arum has made an offer to Mosley to fight Mayweather at a weight of 137 pounds. But the 27-year-old Mosley has outgrown the 135-pound division and has been struggling to make the weight. He was dehydrated against John Brown in his last fight in April in which Mosley stopped Brown. Even though he got down to 135 pounds at the weigh-in for the fight, he ballooned to 151 pounds by the time he entered the ring.
https://www.nytimes.com/1999/05/13/s...ts-it-all.html

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[ADP02]

I smell DUCK!!!!!

[ADP02]

Dude stop. It's fine to not like Floyd but what you are doing here is embarrassing even for you.

We all know the deal with ODH and Shane. No need to try and revise history.

Shane said he spoke to Floyd about moving up to fight him at 135. Floyd said no, he wanted to stay at 130.

Floyd fans called that BS.

At the end of the video, Floyd says that he wanted to stay at 130 for as long as possible. Something like 26 times to break a record. Just like Mosley said!!!!


KABADABOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!







First check out the video above. The end of it Floyd specifically states that he wants to fight to beat the record at 130!!!!!! there was no mention of wanting to fight Shane




But here is Mosley being interviewed.

Q: After you challenged him, a week later, Mayweather wished you good luck in your career which seemed to indicate he’s not interested in fighting you. He also mentioned that he challenged you twice, and he claims that you turned him down back in 1999 and again in 2006. Did you really turn him down?

A: Like I said, he’s really a liar. He likes to lie a lot.

In 1999 there’s a film where he’s fighting in Michigan when he was fighting at 130 and I was fighting at 135, and

I asked him, like when HBO does the prefight analysts talk to the fighters before they fight. I talked to him, and hopefully it’s recorded somewhere— I think it was on FX—I asked him, “

Are you planning on coming up to lightweight to fight me?”

And he said, “No,”


He (FLOYD) had no intention of coming to lightweight to fight me, he wanted t beat Carlos Monzon’s record. He didn’t want to come to lightweight.

That’s when I jumped from lightweight to welterweight to fight Oscar De La Hoya. That was the first incident that he’s talking about, so he turned me down in 1999.

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