Comments Thread For: Whyte: Wilder Doesn't Want to Fight Anyone Who Can Hurt Him

[P to the J]

What risks has Joshua taken (Klitschko excepted) ? Are Charles Martin, Dillian Whyte, Joseph Parker, and Dominic Brezeale so much better than Gerald Washington, Bermane Stiverne, Chris Arreola, and Artur Spilzka?

Wilder was also scheduled to face Povetkin, so it isnt like he ducked him. Guy got popped for steroids. Regardless Wilder showed up for the fight.

Neither of these guys are currently ATGs. Neither of these guys have sought out the toughest of fights. Both of these guys are each others biggest threat, and largest payday. Wilder is crazy thinking he deserves 50%, but Joshua/ Hearn are crazy thinking he is only worth 15 flat AND turning down a 50 million guarantee with PPV upside.

Wilder wants "retirement money" and the money has to reflect the risks? sounds like a prize fighter to me. Joshua obviously sees Wilder as a risk and wants the money to reflect that risk too. Otherwise he would have given up more cash to make the fight happen and get the biggest payday of his career.

Or better still, someone confident of victory would have signed the contract for the 50 million they asked for (that's right. 50 million that THEY ASKED FOR), getting by far the biggest payday of their career, gotten the last belt left, and gone down as an ATG.

See... this stuff works both ways.

Of the list you mention, (besides Klit), Parker was more of a risk than any of the Wilder opponents you mention and at least had a belt and was undefeated. Another one wilder could have fought himself actually.
And yeah Dillian Whyte is better than any of the Wilder fighters mentioned even though he is mediocre at best.

And let’s not forget: AJ has fought 21 times and has unified twice already. Wilder has fought 40 times and didn’t take a risk until his 40th fight. Whichever way you spin that, it’s poor. But hey, he was unlucky with Povetkin and yes, he is moving up to a better class of fighter now.


AJ should have signed for the £50m. You won’t catch me denying that. But my hunch? If he loses to Wilder (even if it’s twice) he’ll box on. If Wilder loses to AJ he’ll retire. I’m telling you, Wilder is acting like he’s got one shot to make a ***** load of money; that’s what i’m seeing.

I could be WAY off but i’m keen to see how it plays out.

[Biolink]

Fight King Kong wasteman!

[JLC]

Of the list you mention, (besides Klit), Parker was more of a risk than any of the Wilder opponents you mention and at least had a belt and was undefeated. Another one wilder could have fought himself actually.
And yeah Dillian Whyte is better than any of the Wilder fighters mentioned even though he is mediocre at best.

And let’s not forget: AJ has fought 21 times and has unified twice already. Wilder has fought 40 times and didn’t take a risk until his 40th fight. Whichever way you spin that, it’s poor. But hey, he was unlucky with Povetkin and yes, he is moving up to a better class of fighter now.


AJ should have signed for the £50m. You won’t catch me denying that. But my hunch? If he loses to Wilder (even if it’s twice) he’ll box on. If Wilder loses to AJ he’ll retire. I’m telling you, Wilder is acting like he’s got one shot to make a ***** load of money; that’s what i’m seeing.

I could be WAY off but i’m keen to see how it plays out.

Personally i think the opponent list is comparable. Old man Luis Ortiz is the best fighter Wilder has faced thus far. A faded Wladamir Klitschko is the best opponent Joshua has faced thus far.

The rest of the fighters on either of their resumes don't move the needle.

Parker was a champ. Beat Andy Ruiz for a vacant title.
Stiverne was a champ. Beat Chris Arreola for a vacant title.

Washington, Spilzka, and Arreola have done nothing great with their careers.

Whyte, and Brezeale have done nothing great with their careers. Charles Martin won a vacant belt against a guy with a broken leg. the definition of a paper champion.

You wanna give a slight edge to Joshua's resume? I am fine with that if you feel his opponents are a bit better than Deontay's. But you cant base it solely off of titles, because fighters make belts, belts don't make fighters.

And speaking of belts, I always said Wilder and his team shot themselves in the foot allowing Parker to fight Joshua. Wilder's team should have been offering 7 figures to Parker to even out the belt ratio and gain leverage. Wilder does not deserve a 50/50 split in a fight vs a guy with 3 belts and the larger fanbase. Period.

But I def disagree with your statement that Wilder thinks this is his only shot. He was on record saying he would take a crap deal in fight 1 as long as Joshua takes the same crap deal in the rematch. Sounds like a confident fighter to me. It isn't like Wilder has been angling for something unreasonable. People say 15 mil will be his biggest payday. So what? if the fight is worth 80 million, why should he take 15 instead of 25 ? Same thing people said when Floyd was offering Manny 40 million flat. Pacquiao would have been an IDIOT to take 40 million on a fight that did 4.2m sales at 100 bucks a pop. That was a $420,000,000 fight.

Like May v Pac, AJ v Wilder is going to be BOTH FIGHTERS biggest paydays to date. The A-side deserves respect and a bigger slice, but c'mon man. 15 flat? People can lie to themselves and say "nobody knows Wilder" all they want but it just isn't true. Joseph Parker had a belt too, and I didnt see anyone clamoring for that fight or talking about putting it on PPV. It was just another day in the office. Wilder moves the needle and is a big part of the promotion. He deserves better compensation than what they are offering.

And shouts out to you for making your points clear without being insulting. Good to actually be able to talk boxing with people, even when we don't agree.

[SinderellaMan]

I’m not going to quote any of these ridiculous statements.
At heavyweight, any man can knock any man out. It’s not so much power as it is technique & speed. Here is a list of so called bums who made their names by upsetting the apple cart.
- George Foreman was “just another bum” when he signed to fight Frazier. “He ain’t fought nobody like me.”
-Rahman put the great Lennox Lewis down.
- Lamon Brewster, through adversity, pulled off a massive upset over the great Wlad.
- Sergei Liahovich upset Brewster in what I still feel is the most exciting heavyweight fight since Lewis vs Vitali.
- Stiverne was a 5-1 underdog in the 1st Arreola fight. He broke Arreola’s adamantium nose in 3 places.
- Ken Norton was supposed to be a cakewalk comeback fight when he broke Ali’s jaw.
- Sonny Liston was supposed to kill Ali in their 1st fight.
- Not one editor at the Ring Magazine picked Tyson Fury to beat Wlad. They all chose Wlad by KO. And in fact, Manny Steward, rest his soul, told Wlad that Fury would be the man to end his reign.
- Ken Norton was supposed to destroy Foreman & prove that the Frazier KO was a fluke.
Fury is 6’9 and chooses to box to preserve his stamina. If you’re telling me that a man that size has no power, then I quote Tony Bellew:
“You fight the fooker den.”

[Dle]

AJ is the coward. He proved that in the recent negotiations. Hearn doesn’t want to lose his goodness goose too soon, but may underestimate Povetkin & lose purse-string anyway.

[BLASTER1]

'' You’ve seen the power I carry late on in the fight and I know he would not be able to deal with it.” - Shyte.

I didnt watch this fight but i heard he was hanging on for dear life in the 12th.
Parker must of had him hurt for him to do a superman to stop his punches.

[Boxingyoung33]

Of the list you mention, (besides Klit), Parker was more of a risk than any of the Wilder opponents you mention and at least had a belt and was undefeated. Another one wilder could have fought himself actually.
And yeah Dillian Whyte is better than any of the Wilder fighters mentioned even though he is mediocre at best.

And let’s not forget: AJ has fought 21 times and has unified twice already. Wilder has fought 40 times and didn’t take a risk until his 40th fight. Whichever way you spin that, it’s poor. But hey, he was unlucky with Povetkin and yes, he is moving up to a better class of fighter now.


AJ should have signed for the £50m. You won’t catch me denying that. But my hunch? If he loses to Wilder (even if it’s twice) he’ll box on. If Wilder loses to AJ he’ll retire. I’m telling you, Wilder is acting like he’s got one shot to make a ***** load of money; that’s what i’m seeing.

I could be WAY off but i’m keen to see how it plays out.

Whyte and Parker are not better than Ortiz and neither the threat that Ortiz brought. Parker had a belt but got a hometown decision against Ruiz and got a decision over Fury. Wilder if he loses to AJ won't retire he has too much fire to quit after a lost. AJ talks about losing like he expects to lose and reflect on a career. Wilder isn't worried about the what ifs or the past he only worries about the now.

[Akutalee]

Most idiot talking about Aj ducking was wilder ever think of unifying he had 40 fights.. picking bums over bums and you want Aj to fight him by giving more than 15m what a joke... just fight Whyte and get 8m and knock him out if you are so sure of wining and then make close to 20m with Aj fraud

[GlassJoey]

Ever hear of an undefeated guy named Rocky Marciano?

Yeah, I loved it when he beat Ivan Drago.

Marciano wasn’t exactly a ‘hope’, he was the real deal. I was referring to the list of men that failed to beat Jack Johnson.

[DougalDylan]

LOL

This is the same Wilder that begged not to be put in with Klitschko because he was a baby heavyweight and not ready at 30 fights.

Whyte and Parker are not better than Ortiz and neither the threat that Ortiz brought. Parker had a belt but got a hometown decision against Ruiz and got a decision over Fury. Wilder if he loses to AJ won't retire he has too much fire to quit after a lost. AJ talks about losing like he expects to lose and reflect on a career. Wilder isn't worried about the what ifs or the past he only worries about the now.