Old Man Ortiz KO'd Allen and Cojanu while Whyte and Parker couldn't?

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Allen and Cojanu

hahahahhahaa

Whyte and Parker couldn't even stop them

[LacedUp]

Whyte and Parker couldn't even stop them

I see it's been moved from KOd to stop now. hahahaha

Also, you didn't see either of those fights so stop talking.

[Accolade]

I see it's been moved from KOd to stop now. hahahaha

Also, you didn't see either of those fights so stop talking.

If you're too dumb to view technical knockouts as a form of KOs then that isn't my problem. I saw every fight mentioned in this thread, and Whyte/Parker looked awful.

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Why is that?

Boxrec rank Allen 64th in the world and they rank Colanu 129th in the world and both had been KOed before they fought Ortiz. It's not exactly an earth shaking achievement for Ortiz. It's not like he KOed a legit top 10 contender. Try to remember Ortiz recently was KOed by Wilder and that did not raise his stock. Whyte and Parker are both ranked in front of him by everybody who ranks boxers.

[Reloaded]

Fighters are not the same every time they step into the ring, only the very Elite bring that mojo to every fight the others have good-bad nights all the time.

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If you're too dumb to view technical knockouts as a form of KOs then that isn't my problem. I saw every fight mentioned in this thread, and Whyte/Parker looked awful.

You didn't see anything, you're lying. You read it on wiki and started to try and make it as if any of it means anything.

When you factor in that Dave Allen, a southern area level fighter at the time with about 10 fights, took the Ortiz fight on 10 days notice it really shows how awful Ortiz was.

Parker literally took the Cojanu fight on days notice and it had been his chief sparring partner for that particular camp, so really little you can take out of that.

Now move on, you've been exposed.

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Wow, Ortiz couldn't even stop Malik Scott. Meanwhile, Chisora did...

Scott got dropped 5x vs Ortiz & barely averaged 13 punches thrown per round. Scott was beating Chisora on the scorecards prior to a premature 6th round stoppage. Clear difference in class between Ortiz & Chisora. Scott was taking chances vs Chisora because he was winning whilst he was surviving vs Ortiz.

Allen was dragged down and exhausted .

That poster has definite brain damage ( whoever alt that is ) lol

Allen's own corner had the towel in their hands (commentators said in the vid), he received a major beating. (no this is not my alt before you think so)

Boxrec rank Allen 64th in the world and they rank Colanu 129th in the world and both had been KOed before they fought Ortiz. It's not exactly an earth shaking achievement for Ortiz. It's not like he KOed a legit top 10 contender. Try to remember Ortiz recently was KOed by Wilder and that did not raise his stock. Whyte and Parker are both ranked in front of him by everybody who ranks boxers.

Allen had never been stopped before he fought Ortiz. Allen also took the Whyte fight on just 3 weeks notice. Ortiz boxed his ears off to a 7th round stoppage, Whyte looked very sloppy.

Parker arguably lost to Ruiz & Hughie Fury, where do those fighters rank, who have those guys beaten? Whyte's 2nd best career win is a close SD to Chisora, the guy that was getting out boxed by Malik Scott.

[Cutthroat]

I see it's been moved from KOd to stop now. hahahaha

Also, you didn't see either of those fights so stop talking.

Allen was about to be knocked out, his own corner had the towel in their hands which was mentioned by the commentators.

Allen took the Whyte fight on 3 weeks notice as well, the difference is Ortiz completely outclassed him while Whyte looked very poor.

Watching the 2 boxers fight there is a clear gap in skill and power, in fact you can also refer to other performances.

Same with Ortiz's performance vs Malik Scott and Dereck Chisora's.

Ortiz's performance vs Thompson compared to Pulev-Takam.

Ortiz's performance vs Wlad's & Perez's vs Jennings.

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Boxer A knocking out Boxer C whilst Boxer B went the distance with Boxer C doesn't necessarily mean Boxer A > Boxer C. Transitive property does not work in sport because there are far too many variables. Anybody with a brain can work that out... and anybody that wants to argue against that can be shown numerous examples to prove them wrong.

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i remember when power punching and knockouts were criticized by a certain fan group...then wilder came along and they forgot what they had been saying for years. now they are trying to spin knockout wins over bums as some sort of triangle math to prove a guy that wilder beat is amazing.