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  • Boxingfanatic75
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    #11
    Originally posted by Scopedog
    I've got to say, I think Spence is a very dangerous looking fighter, but after beating Brook and ascending to the top of the pile, he's not been all that proactive in pursuing the best fights. Honestly he's not had a fight since Brook that hasn't been a mismatch, and Garcia would be another one imo.
    He’s attempted to pursue all big fights...Danny Garcia won’t fight him, Porter won’t, “Sometimes Thurman” can’t get off the rag, and who knows what Pacquiao is going to do. This isn’t on Spence he is trying to unify and while all mention his name none step up to the plate

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      #12
      Originally posted by Scopedog
      I've got to say, I think Spence is a very dangerous looking fighter, but after beating Brook and ascending to the top of the pile, he's not been all that proactive in pursuing the best fights. Honestly he's not had a fight since Brook that hasn't been a mismatch, and Garcia would be another one imo.
      And where exactly are all these competitive matches for him? Let's be honest, every fight he gets will be a mismatch at 147 because he's that good. Maybe Crawford gives him a good test, but we don't know that for sure either.

      It seems like he's the only guy getting this scrutiny these days. I've seen guys justify people like Crawford fighting Lundy, Molina, Diaz, etc. with little to no criticism for years. Those were all blatant mismatches. Hell, even Horn was an obvious mismatch. Why is Errol getting so much criticism now?

      Algeri, Brook, and Peterson are a solid cast of opponents so far. Adding Mikey and Garcia/Porter would round things out well.

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      • dibzvincent143
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        #13
        Originally posted by Bronx2245
        Oddsmakers Underestimate Duran
        By Andrew Beyer June 17, 1980

        Most sports fans see the Sugar Ray Leonard-Roberto Duran bout as a classic confrontation between two evenly matched fighters. But the nation's gamblers have a different opinion. They are betting the event as if it is a mismatch.

        In both Washington and Las Vegas yesterday, Leonard was listed as the 9-11 favorite. For the uninitiated, this type of odds quotation is the same as is used for baseball. It means if you like Leonard, you risk $11 to win $5. If you like Duran, you put up $5 to win $9.

        Support for Leonard has grown since he was initially established as a 7-9 favorite, and the present odds -- by ordinary betting standards -- are very lopsided. By contrast, there were odds quotations on 13 major-league games yesterday, and none was as high as 9-11...

        In such matters I turn for guidance to a man I'll call Harry, who is the best sports handicapper I know. I have quoted his usually brilliant opinions on football in this space before, but Harry's real specialty is boxing. I made the one serious fight wager of my life when Harry told me that Larry Holmes was a cinch to upset Ken Norton. He was, of course, right. And now he is talking in the same positive terms about Leonard.

        The key to the fight, he says, is weight: Duran's move from the lightweight to the welterweight division.

        "This is not as if he were 21 to 22 years old and grew naturally into a welterweight, as Leonard did," Harry said. "Duran is 29, and he's put that extra weight on a 5-foot-7 frame, and I don't see him being in the same shape as he used to be. The guys he's hitting now are 12 pounds heavier than the guys he was hitting as a lightweight, and they're not falling as easily for him.


        "On Friday," Harry predicted, "I wouldn't be surprised if Leonard gets dropped early. He's ****y, and he may catch one of those short right hands after holding his left to low. But that'll bring out the best in him. I think he'll block punches with his right hand and keep jabbing Duran. In one fight last year Duran got his eye cut pretty bad by a guy who landed enough jabs.

        "Somewhere along the line Leonard is going to cut him. I think he'll knock him out about the ninth round."

        https://www.washingtonpost.com/archi...=.b91793a01aa6
        Good find. Problem is this is really not proportional to that fight. I mean Mikey is not close to how Duran was viewed during that time. And pretty sure the odds will be more than just 9-11
        Duran was clearcut the best lighweight during that time, while Mikey still has loma and Beltran.
        He is not athletic, he’s even chubby at 140.

        All the guys who were successful in jumping weights are all physically gifted. Pacquiao, floyd, mosley and their are all fleetfooted as well.
        Mikey’s greatest strengths are his fundamentals, balance, discipline and his power at his weight.

        Will that be enough to overcome such a deficit?

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          #14
          We haven't had a lineal champion at 147 since 2016. It would be nice to see one crowned.

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            #15
            Originally posted by dibzvincent143
            Good find. Problem is this is really not proportional to that fight. I mean Mikey is not close to how Duran was viewed during that time. And pretty sure the odds will be more than just 9-11
            Duran was clearcut the best lighweight during that time, while Mikey still has loma and Beltran.
            He is not athletic, he’s even chubby at 140.

            All the guys who were successful in jumping weights are all physically gifted. Pacquiao, floyd, mosley and their are all fleetfooted as well.
            Mikey’s greatest strengths are his fundamentals, balance, discipline and his power at his weight.

            Will that be enough to overcome such a deficit?
            Point #1: They were wrong then. Point #2: Mikey and Spence are not Duran and Leonard. Point #3: Loma fight is hard to make, and Beltran is not even worth the time.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Bronx2245
              Point #1: They were wrong then. Point #2: Mikey and Spence are not Duran and Leonard. Point #3: Loma fight is hard to make, and Beltran is not even worth the time.
              1. 9-11 is not a massive underdog like Garcia would be
              2. This is closer to Brook-GGG move than it is to Duran-Leonard in every aspect.
              3. Go to 140
              4. As good as floyd was he never made this kind of move when he could’ve.
              5. As good as pac was he only made this move to fight aging dela hoya with a compromise that he’s also moving a class lower

              I like Mikey and I want the best for him. If he pushes for this and wins, great.
              But if he loses gets pummeled socket broken, shattered confidence and whatnot. Boy, it’s downhill from there.

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              • KillaMane26
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                #17
                Cuz u is. No power or speed to make it up either

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                • KillaMane26
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Boxingfanatic75
                  He’s attempted to pursue all big fights...Danny Garcia won’t fight him, Porter won’t, “Sometimes Thurman” can’t get off the rag, and who knows what Pacquiao is going to do. This isn’t on Spence he is trying to unify and while all mention his name none step up to the plate
                  WTF dis guy talking bout. The boxing world all know bout the ducking

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                  • richardt
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                    #19
                    If Garcia beats either Spence or Lom, which I dont feel he will, that makes him PFP#1 in my book. Either of those would be ATG type status wins.

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                    • HURTFEELINGS
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                      #20
                      Arum will not let Loma fight him, so he goes for a BIGGER challenge, Spence.

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