Comments Thread For: Lomachenko Ready For Beltran-Pedraza Winner in December

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  • Noelanthony
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    #31
    Originally posted by Butch.McRae
    Linares is a very mediocre fighter. He would've lost to any of the other top guys here stateside. He has a resume full of no-name competition. He was hiding in UK fighting Euro level guys for a reason. I'm a little concerned that you referred to him as an "unbelievable boxer" lol

    Loma's best win is Gary Russell Jr.
    And Mikey’s is Broner...... Yes I will concede you are right I was really talking in terms on his punch selection movement etc. I like the way he fights he is slick. However no doubt Mikey would beat him. It’s like GGG I don’t rate him as he is straight up and down but I can admit there is not many in his prime that would have beat him

    To conclude your assessment Russell Jr was a supposed world beater and Loma done him dirty , still I was not impressed until he dealt with Rigo the defensive genius and that’s when I stopped drinking my haterade and took notice

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    • chrisJS
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      #32
      Originally posted by Shadoww702
      This kind of BS! Doesnt give those other guys much time to recoup and train properly
      Loma was scheduled to fight August 25th until the injury. May 12 to August 25th = 105 days. August 25th until December 1st = 98 days.

      Not a huge difference and hardly favorites being played based on that. 14 weeks so easily gives the winner the standard 3-4 weeks off and the standard 8-10 week training camp.

      If this was Mikey you'd have a different tune no doubt. You are just a nutthugger/hater and can't be objective.

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      • chrisJS
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        #33
        Originally posted by Bronx2245
        I can't believe they would rather this fight over a fight with Manny Pacquiao! I understand Manny would be bigger, but he's older and slower, and at 40, he would be dropping down 7lbs.! If you don't like 140, negotiate! How about 138? This walks like it, and talks like it...but there's still hope. Pacquiao vs. Lomachenko! Make it happen!
        Pacquaio has basically already said he won't be fighting in 2018 again so why not fight a unification in the meantime? Would you just rather see fighters be more inactive and just complain who they are not fighting instead?

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        • Hatesrats
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          #34
          So basically he is waiting for Beltran...
          (Pedraza is a walking KO for Rey's style... No power & weak chin)

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          • Bronx2245
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            #35
            Originally posted by chrisJS
            Pacquaio has basically already said he won't be fighting in 2018 again so why not fight a unification in the meantime? Would you just rather see fighters be more inactive and just complain who they are not fighting instead?
            OK, if Manny is not ready for December, then Beltran-Pedraza makes sense. Whenever Manny is ready, Loma needs to take that fight! Loma needs to make sure he's the next stop on the money train, and no one else...especially Crawford!

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            • chrisJS
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              #36
              Originally posted by Bronx2245
              OK, if Manny is not ready for December, then Beltran-Pedraza makes sense. Whenever Manny is ready, Loma needs to take that fight! Loma needs to make sure he's the next stop on the money train, and no one else...especially Crawford!
              I think it will more than likely be in the spring or next summer. Pacquaio seems to take a year between fights now.

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              • The Big Dunn
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                #37
                Originally posted by chrisJS
                Pacquaio has basically already said he won't be fighting in 2018 again so why not fight a unification in the meantime? Would you just rather see fighters be more inactive and just complain who they are not fighting instead?
                The Manny/Loma fight is Bob giving both guys a money fight that doesn't force them to defend their titles. Niether guy has to lose their title if they fight at 140.

                It would be better for the sport if Manny fought Crawford or Thurman to move ww forward and Loma (assuming he beats beltran/pedrazza winner which I think he will) and Mikey fought to make an undisputed 135 lb champ and scrap all talk of a Manny/Loma CW fight.

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                • chrisJS
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                  The Manny/Loma fight is Bob giving both guys a money fight that doesn't force them to defend their titles. Niether guy has to lose their title if they fight at 140.

                  It would be better for the sport if Manny fought Crawford or Thurman to move ww forward and Loma (assuming he beats beltran/pedrazza winner which I think he will) and Mikey fought to make an undisputed 135 lb champ and scrap all talk of a Manny/Loma CW fight.
                  Crawford/Pacquaio is much better because Crawford has less short term options (than Lomachenko) and it means more to any division but it's less of a sell and less of a contest. Pacquaio vs. the (perceived) p4p#1 whose much smaller than him OR Pacquaio against a bigger, younger dude that will crush him.

                  I'm not a fan of catchweight fights or these cash out fights I'm more old-school and prefer the best fight for the divisions and the natural passing of the torch matches that you don't have to go leaps and bounds to make happen.

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                  • Gillie
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Butch.McRae
                    I have a YouTube debate from several years ago where me and this much older guy were discussing how Arum would put Walters on the shelf and then put him in against Loma after a long layoff then scrap him.

                    The older gentleman was walking me through a history of the same process over and over for Arum fighters. When the Walters v. Loma fight took place, I was a little disgusted because I knew what happened.

                    Not saying Loma isn't the better fighter (because he is) but I think sometimes we forget how much goes into a fight.

                    Another example is Gamboa. His career was basically ended by Crawford in a fight that he took on short notice that wasn't even sanctioned. But fans don't talk about those things.
                    Gamboa was my favorite fighter back in the day. I remember thinking that he had the hand speed of Mel**** Taylor and some wicked power. I never thought the Crawford fight was a good idea but I still believed that his skill would pull him through. Thus ended the Yuri Gamboa as we knew him. It's crazy that the guy on YouTube took you through that Arum history and then to have it happen again with Walters! Crazy stuff man. Walters may have won the first round and then became the object of target practice.

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                    • Tony Trick-Pony
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                      #40
                      Another strap and another scalp for Lomachenko...

                      Easy work...

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