Comments Thread For: Luis Ortiz: I Could Be 50 and Beat The Piss Out of 'Punk' Joshua!

[SeGoodland]

Here are the facts for all the f@cking dumb ass fans for that British Dummy Puppet Joshua.

Anthony “the b!tch” Joshua CHOSE to fight Breazeale, Molina, Wladimir, Takam at times when Ortiz was ranked much higher then all of them, forcing Ortiz to take lessor fights. When that British Dummy fought Wladimir, he was inactive for over a year and not even ranked.

Now this piece of ***** Ortiz can’t stay off the damn juice. A lot of it is his fault. He needs to stop blaming everyone. He tested positive for steroids after a 2014 first-round knockout of Lateef Kayode and was suspended eight months, costing him the WBA's interim title. Dumb ass. Then before the original fight was scheduled with Wilder, you tested positive again, delaying that fight. That’s why Wilder was forced to fight Stiverne again as a replacement. Ortiz is his own worst enemy and nobody trusts him. His old ass can’t stay off the damn juice!

And Wilder doesn’t duck anyone. That same punk ass Povetkin that Joshua is fighting, Wilder was supposed to fight back in May 2016 in a mandatory title defense in Russia. The former secondary champion tested positive for meldonium nine days before the fight. Wilder went on to win a $5 million breach of contract lawsuit in U.S. federal court after Povetkin failed a pair of VADA tests in eight months. So Wilder was forced to fight f@cking Gerald Washington as a replacement. And all people can do is look at his resume and say it’s weaker than Joshua’s. It wouldn’t be if both Ortiz and Povetkin stayed off the ****ing juice and those fights went in as planned.

Get the facts f@cking straight dumb ass wannabe boxing fans. Wilder hasn’t ducked anyone his entire career, especially Ortiz or Joshua or Povetkin or anyone else.

He is guilty of bad management like some astute fans have said here and bad luck from fights getting postponed for fighters testing positive. No one wants to get knocked the f@ck out by him! And when they do sign to fight; they start juicing! Kudos to Tyson Fury for having balls!!

FACT...AJ's resume eclipses Wilders. Just because AJ chose to fight those guys, he still fought and he won. There is no way you can dispute that.

Wilder clearly DUCKED Klitschko...that is pretty much the general opinion of pretty much the entire world outside of Wilder fans. AJ didn't, FACT.

FACT, Molina troubled Wilder in the 2nd and 3rd - clearly wobbles Wilder (albeit Wilder did win) but Molina had nothing for AJ. NOT A THING. He looked like he was cowering away on the ropes.

Will you dispute that Ortiz, given 15-20 more seconds, would have beaten Wilder?

Punk ass Povetkin??? The guy has one loss...to one of the greatest HW's of all time.

You say that Wilder has had to fight fighters due to last minute changes, what about AJ beating Takam? Highly rated fighter but was beaten easily.

You only suck on Deontay's **** because you don't have any other Heavyweights champs. AJ doesn't want Wilder, he wants the belt and when Fury walks through Wilder, AJ will want Fury.

The centre of Heavyweight boxing is ENGLAND. Not Alabama.

[juggernaut666]

Ortiz like everyone else is just yelling EMPTY call outs for attention ( HEY LOOK AT ME ) lol

Oh and this is as EMPTY call out as you can get because all the Wilderettes on here cant even comprehend this guy who coincidentally used the number 50 ( i cant imagine why ) isnt even ranked outside the WBC so the fight CANT possibly be made right now !

[GGG Gloveking]

Ortiz like everyone else is just yelling EMPTY call outs for attention ( HEY LOOK AT ME ) lol

Oh and this is as EMPTY call out as you can get because all the Wilderettes on here cant even comprehend this guy who coincidentally used the number 50 ( i cant imagine why ) isnt even ranked outside the WBC so the fight CANT possibly be made right now !

An empty call out is saying "give me $50m (hey, there's that number 50 again) and I'll sign tomorrow "

[davidw9785]

I mean damn wilder did give you 2 chances technically. Earn your spot again

Yeah, Ortiz needs to build himself up again after getting laid out by Wilder. No shame in that, but he needs to build up some momentum to get people excited about either fight. If Wilder ends up fighting Fury (which would be awesome), Ortiz should fight Whyte or Brazzers or Big Baby - someone with somewhat of a name. It's slim pickings when it comes to big names in the HW division.

[juggernaut666]

An empty call out is saying "give me $50m (hey, there's that number 50 again) and I'll sign tomorrow "

Thats not a call out thats a partial statement to a question about 100 million dollar fight and splitting it .

On the contrary an empty call out would be "Money dont matter its aboutlegacy ,i'll fight Joshua just give me 50% or no fight "


Not only is Wilder a dope but hes a fibber too , "Yes i agree to tems , oops i lost my pen "

[P to the J]

As i’ve said before, I seriously love Ortiz but one of the worst things about this forum now is how overrated he now is. Is he in the top 10 HWs? Probably yes. Is he the most skilful? Alongside Fury, yes but that isn’t saying much about the division.
Should every top 10 HW be looking to fight him? Answer: what the hell’s the point? He has no belt, is not an immediate stepping stone to a belt and (cruelly) brings little to no interest from the mainstream while still posing a threat (if you box within distance of him)

Furthermore, (mostly Wilder) fans think that he’s number 2 HW? Why? Because he severely outboxed Wilder? Almost everyone the latter has faced has outboxed him. In fact, he posted a video of himself at a zoo with his family last week and a kangaroo took him to the judge’s scorecards (I joke!)

A 30 year old Ortiz would possibly hold a HW title fighting in this era, but guys, no matter how much we like him and sorry as I am to say it he hasn’t the conditioning nor the mobility to beat most of the contenders.

[P to the J]

Coward Joshua will never fight Ortiz.

Mate, hardly anyone is going to opt to fight Luis Ortiz unless they are short of alternatives. He’s come off a loss, brings no money and lacks a belt. Come on now.

[Biolink]

All these pros are disrespecting Joshua. Hearn and AJ's game must be too transparent

[SAINTSTEVE]

What happened when Wilder's backers offered Joshua 50 million is H & J wanted to talk about it, but presumably ask for more money such as the PPV proceeds. That's because they knew the flat fee was a low ball offer and that they were trying to deceive Wilder, and had their bluff called. This has always been apparent to anyone who doesn't have their head up their ass.
I expect if Wilder beats Fury, that he will claim to be the lineal heavyweight champion as leverage in negotiations with Joshua. And Joshua will probably double down and price himself out of the fight again, but the public will really cast doubt on his sincerity after that. It seems there's nowhere to run and nowhere to hide for Joshua but of course I get ahead of myself because we have a couple of bouts to get through first.

[Straightener]

^^The sound of Aj getting blasted by D.Wilder & Ortiz....LMAO

That’s the sound of everyone begging for a fight now Joshua has signed to fight povetkin zzzzzzz zzzzz zzzz zzz zz z