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  • #41
    Originally posted by Boxing Goat View Post
    Honest question - Do you really think Wilder is a bum or are you just trying to bait people on here? I find it hard to believe that you really think he's as bad as you claim.
    He's rubbish, the man was getting soundly outboxed by Polish soccer hooligans and ex American football players, as well as losing every round to Ortiz.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by Szef View Post
      Of course Joshua can outpunch Wilder.

      He might not hit as hard as Wilder but he still hits hard enough to sleep him.
      Mebbe.

      The problem there is we have seen Wilder hurt badly by a guy with as much or more power than AJ and Deontay never touched the canvas.

      We can't say the same about AJ after getting decked by Wlad, can we?

      That's the difference and I suspect that is the heart of the real reason why we don't have a fight yet.

      AJ isn't scared, but I bet Hearn and McCracken are...

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      • #43
        Originally posted by TrillScottHeron View Post
        I think they should be on a PPV card together. I wouldn’t pay for either on their own but together it’s cant miss. As much as I’m a fan of Spence, him vs a lightweight (even though Garcia is nice with it) doesn’t warrant me spending $50+. Also I don’t think US casuals know/care about Tyson Fury. I know him and Wilder can sell this bout, but if you pair them with Spence-Garcia that’s the best PPV in a long time. Plus they all have the same promoter/adviser besides Fury. Put a couple average to good fighters on this card (Jermell-Lara, Broner-Ennis, The Olympic chick) and it could easily surpass 1.5 million buys.
        Not possible nor is it happening. Wilder/Fury will want 6-8 million or more, and Spence/Garcia will want 4-5 million themselves. You will have to do major PPV buys to break even, and you honestly think Spence and Garcia want to be on a UC?

        1.5 million buys? Whoa!!!!!! If Fury/Wilder do 400k buys that would be GREAT. If Spence/Garcia do 300k buys that would be GREAT. 1.5 million buys only will happen with a Canelo/GGG fight. Even if you put those two fights together, 1 million buys isn't happening. Only MEGA stars pull that off. Maybe Wilder/Joshua in the states could reach that mark, but even that would be unlikely.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by koolkc107 View Post
          Says you?

          I will write what I please.

          You do the same.
          Ok, chill tough guy I just thought it weird how you would comment of how you want them to make loads of cash as opposed to the usual fight fan view of looking forward to seeing the fight. Or a prediction.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by _Rexy_ View Post
            All showtime has to do is follow wilder and fury around with a microphone and the thing will do big sales. Americans cream for heavyweight fights to begin with, but the **** taking that will ensue will make boatloads of money
            Yea I don’t doubt that Wilder-Fury can sell the fight to the boxing world but in Nov/Dec the money sports in the US will be in full swing (NBA, NFL, MLB playoffs). These bouts need to be sold to the sporting world for this plan to work out in Haymon and Wilders Favor. Spence is gonna be good either way, as long as he wins. Wilder needs this bout to make waves and money. So when AJ and co. gets to talking that Wembley chit next year, wilder can rebuttal with “I’m already a PPV star”.

            Originally posted by KTFOKING View Post
            Not possible nor is it happening. Wilder/Fury will want 6-8 million or more, and Spence/Garcia will want 4-5 million themselves. You will have to do major PPV buys to break even, and you honestly think Spence and Garcia want to be on a UC?

            1.5 million buys? Whoa!!!!!! If Fury/Wilder do 400k buys that would be GREAT. If Spence/Garcia do 300k buys that would be GREAT. 1.5 million buys only will happen with a Canelo/GGG fight. Even if you put those two fights together, 1 million buys isn't happening. Only MEGA stars pull that off. Maybe Wilder/Joshua in the states could reach that mark, but even that would be unlikely.
            Anytime is possible, Trump is president. Stay Woke. If they work together they could all easily make more than what you listed there. Spence-Garcia would be co main event obviously, other cheaper fights would be on UC. Boxing fans tune in/pay $ for good matchups not stars, casuals pay for names. Wilder drew 1mill+ against Ortiz, Spence did 725k against Ocampo, pretty sure Garcia numbers will come back 800k+. You can expect atleast 500k be willing to pay for a card of this magnitude. Wilder/Spence have raised their profile immensely this year. I know Mayweather is the largest draw ever in boxing, but his shows with Maidana did 1mill twice, clash with Cotto did a 1.5mill, and Al Haymon promoted those cards with little to no significant fighters on the undercards.Americans want to get behind a new HW star and while Wilder doesn’t have the best skills, I believe a lot will pay if promoted correctly to see him fight someone with a name that’s talks mad chit.
            Last edited by TrillScottHeron; 07-30-2018, 10:27 AM.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by koolkc107 View Post
              Mebbe.

              The problem there is we have seen Wilder hurt badly by a guy with as much or more power than AJ and Deontay never touched the canvas.

              We can't say the same about AJ after getting decked by Wlad, can we?

              That's the difference and I suspect that is the heart of the real reason why we don't have a fight yet.

              AJ isn't scared, but I bet Hearn and McCracken are...
              Yeah we can because Wilder has been knocked down by Harold Sconiers.

              Wilder also doesn't have Klitschko's skills or the jab Klitschko set his right hands with. Nor does he hits harder than him. You can see his right hand coming from a mile away.

              So I'm afraid your triangle theory is invalid.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by BodiesInFlight View Post
                Ok, chill tough guy I just thought it weird how you would comment of how you want them to make loads of cash as opposed to the usual fight fan view of looking forward to seeing the fight. Or a prediction.
                See, now you are giving yourself and your lack of comprehension away.

                Go back and read what I wrote.

                I first mentioned "lineal", "longest reigning champ", and "trilogy".

                Then I hoped that it was lucrative.

                But all you saw was me mentioning money.

                Work on that.

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                • #48
                  Fury needs a couple more fights first. Hes dumb if he does this.

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                  • #49
                    Hopefully and thankfully Hearn just goes away
                    Maybe just for a few months
                    Just don’t wanna hear his bullchit
                    Need a fughin break
                    Mofo ‘s eyes r turning brown for how full of chit he is
                    I recall when Brits hated his guts and were first to call him out

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                    • #50
                      welp.. That was fast.

                      Hopefully Eddie ***** and his robotic juiced up bodybuilder are taking notes.

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