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  • SUBZER0ED
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    #241
    Wilder's already expressed that the only way that he will fight Whyte is if he gets a guarantee to fight Joshua next; win, lose or draw. I doubt that he will change his position.

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    • Lemonhead_Jeff
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      #242
      Originally posted by Sid-Knee
      Who gives a **** about which platform it's on if you're getting paid?

      Hearn is even letting that coward fight Whyte on home soil. This deal couldn't get any better for Wilder but he should just say no? You would support that?

      Wilder shouldn't care who signs up to DAZN. 2 fights and he's done. He can then go back to Showtime. Simple. But not for you though.
      Hearn doesn't "let" Wilder do anything.
      Wilder is the one trying to LET Joshua prove who is the world's best heavyweight.

      Nobody outside of the UK has any interest in a clumsy brawler like Whyte, except King Kong Ortiz, but Whyte already ducked him to fight Parker. Stop trying to sell that British rubbish to astute north American fans.

      Of course Wilder should care about what network he fights on, and Wilder should not contribute to Hearn's financial success until he's in the ring with Joshua. Hearn doesn't deserve to have his cake & eat it too. Hearn is about as welcome in America as Don King would be if he opened-up shop in London. American fans don't need another shyster promoter, especially a pompous foreigner who thinks he's superior. They already have Richard Schaefer to fill that role.

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      • 285Kid
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        #243
        I think Usyk should stay busy , and maybe he can win the April 2019 fight with AJ...

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          #244
          Originally posted by Sid-Knee
          I don't have a man-crush on Joshua. This is a boxing forum where we discuss the ins and outs of the boxing world. When I see people smear Joshua with madness i'm not just going to sit back and agree with a load of loons.

          Now answer my ****ing question... Do you think Deontay deserves half?
          I think Joshua should have accepted the 50-million offer, taken a trip to the USA to get beaten, then rode off into the sunset to count his money. And, yeah, you do have a man-crush on Joshua. It's painfully obvious, but I can understand that it must be hard for you to admit to yourself. I think that's called the denial stage. Next will be acceptance. But you can beat this! Even though we don't see eye to eye, I'm hoping you can overcome and pull-through. Take it one day at a time. You got this!

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          • Sid-Knee
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            #245
            Originally posted by Scipio2009
            Whomever he wants, because Joshua/Hearn are screwing with the public. He'll likely fight October/November, likely from Barclays Center, and the fight will be on Showtime or primetime CBS.

            Breazeale or Kownacki are the likely options (Whyte get beat by both), and then Wilder is likely looking at a PPV event for the Spring if Joshua is still on his BS (Ortiz, and possibly Tyson Fury depending on what they Warren still thinks he has).
            Wilder will take on an unproven fighter for much less money, and you're alright with that? You cowards are scared for your king clown alright. Pathetic. You know a fighters fan-base is a joke when they support taking on weaker guys for much less money even though they cry Wilder is being avoided and not getting enough money. Hahahahahahaha

            Whyte beats the **** out of Brezeale and the Polish bum. Deluded idiot.

            Good luck with those PPV's, you're going to need it. Hahahahaha

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              #246
              Originally posted by 285Kid
              I think Usyk should stay busy , and maybe he can win the April 2019 fight with AJ...
              that's not enough time for Usyk to fight Bellew, Whyte, Chisora, and whoever Eddie has as Lvl.4 gatekeeper.

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                #247
                Originally posted by Scipio2009
                Anthony Joshua has Povetkin in September, and then the IBF is going to be on his neck to fight Kubrat Pulev. With the boxing world already talking about Joshua not looking to fight Wilder anytime soon, how is it then going to look if he gives up the IBF belt to fight Dillian Whyte again at Wembley? lol.

                Deontay Wilder drew an average of near 1.2 million homes for the Ortiz fight, competing against a UFC PPV and a live card on HBO.

                The audience is there for Wilder to make the attempt; stage one more event to confirm that the audience is with Wilder, and then test the PPV.

                In terms of opponent, Luis Ortiz makes the most sense (if the Joshua fight doesn't happen), the live PPV would likely do an easy 300k-500k buys, and the re-air will likely still do north of 1m homes if the audience numbers hold.

                250k homes puts the worth of the US TV rights at over $8m.
                But Pulev isn't the mandatory. Why will Joshua have to fight him in April? Get a brain will you.

                Joshua is waiting for Wilder to sign for April. The fight happens when Wilder has found his pen.

                Test the PPV all you want, it will flop. The patterns show that. Golovkin gets more on HBO than Wilder does on Showtime, but did they all buy the PPV's? No, they didn't. The same will happen here. Not only that, but Golovkin fought 2 good fighters with one being a unification. Wilder will be fighting garbage, so will do less than Golovkin did.

                You think half of those that watched the first fight are going to pay out for the rematch? Hahahahaha. You're deluded. How much is the PPV going to be?

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                • Lemonhead_Jeff
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                  #248
                  Originally posted by killakali
                  u don’t get it. AJ already is fighting in September. Why are u telling wilder to sit outntill AJs next date which is April
                  Where did I say Wilder should sit-out?
                  Wilder should not do any business with Hearn unless it's to make the Joshua fight. Wilder should not fight on DAZN or help Hearn generate revenue by fighting his other Matchroom fighters.

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                  • Sid-Knee
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                    #249
                    Originally posted by Scipio2009
                    Because Wilder is carrying his show, and the next fight is a voluntary defense of his title. Value is key, but you don't care anyway.

                    Wilder takes Anthony Joshua from being a European star, whom his promoter has basically maxed his home revenue at $45m-$50m on the event, to a global interest looking at $50m as the purse just to him, with hints at the total revenue for the fighters being $75m-$100m.

                    If you bring value the split changes; Ortiz got more than that, Povetkin was due for more than that, and there's no doubt that Joshua and Fury will get well more than that too.

                    If you don't bring any value, you're a body, and bodies generally get 10%-15% for simply showing up to fight. Dillian Whyte is a body; he has no belt, he's not highly rated, he has no traveling support, he doesn't have any real interest from US TV, he's not mandatory, etc.
                    Haha, And Joshua carries his own show as well. Why, do you think those he fights are big names outside of fighting Joshua and picking up big cheques?

                    Joshua is an international star you idiot. He sells his fights to 192 countries. But you delude yourself that Joshua will only become an international star by beating someone the world doesn't know? You're mad. Do you know that?

                    No one is going to fight for a world title for a pittance. So don't delude yourself there either.

                    Whyte is highly rated. He now has a better resume than your coward king, Wilder. He also fought on PPV to a sold out arena. Something Wilder hasn't done yet. And that isn't going to change either. Wilder will never sell to 20,000 fans. Ever!. He will flop on PPV as well.

                    So yeah, nothing but delusion from you here. But you've got a lot more mad things to say i'm sure. Haha.

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                    • Sid-Knee
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                      #250
                      Originally posted by Iamsmoke89
                      Not scared for Wilder at all. Have whyte take that risky fight against Ortiz like wbc wanted him to. He want wilder go through ortiz enough said.
                      He doesn't need to go through Ortiz to get to Wilder. He's already beaten a top rated fighter in Parker.

                      Does the next bum Wilder will face have to go through Ortiz as well? Or are you a raging hypocrite who's clearly scared for his boy?

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