Comments Thread For: Luis Ortiz: I'll Ask To Go On Disability - So Joshua Fights Me!

[Sid-Knee]

Then why don't Eddie Hearn set up a fight between Dillian Whyte or Dereck Chisora vs Jarrell Miller in a title elimination bout in Great Brtitain in order to determine who will fight Anthony Joshua next for the World championship titles?

With the Parker win, Whyte doesn't need to fight anyone else for a title shot. He should get either Wilder or Joshua next.

I could see Chisora and Miller making sense, yeah. Lets see what happens there. But Whyte isn't going to take a step back by fighting Miller. Whyte is well ahead of him now.

[Ake-Dawg]

I'm talking about a shot at a title. Ortiz has had his shot, now it's Whyte's turn. He's earned it with his win over Parker. Saying otherwise is just plain nonsense.

He definitely made himself a top contender that should be considered for voluntary defenses. Not arguing that. That doesn't mean he can't or shouldn't fight Ortiz or Miller or Pulev for that matter.

[BendOver]

I'm talking about a shot at a title. Ortiz has had his shot, now it's Whyte's turn. He's earned it with his win over Parker. Saying otherwise is just plain nonsense.

Whyte has his shot, if I recall correctly. To me there's no clear fighters deserving a shot. The right thing to do would be Wilder vs. aj. Then again seems to me that Joshua doesn't want any part of wlider. Also he is avoiding fighters that could put him in lala land, like Ortiz. Actually a lots of fighters don't want any part of the old man.

[Sid-Knee]

So a world champion needs more experience? What a load of crap

At that time, yes. He then fought Wlad and all comers.

Maybe Joshua should have faced him on his debut, yeah?

Being beyond unreasonable is a load of crap. What i'm saying makes perfect sense.

Remember when Deontay first picked up the title after 30 odd fights and they refused the Wlad fight because he needed some experience? Remember?

[Sid-Knee]

He definitely made himself a top contender that should be considered for voluntary defenses. Not arguing that. That doesn't mean he can't or shouldn't fight Ortiz or Miller or Pulev for that matter.

Whyte shouldn't have to fight all and sundry to get a title shot. He's earned it. His next fight should be Wilder or Joshua. No one else should be mentioned. Not until he's had his shot.

[Sid-Knee]

Whyte has his shot, if I recall correctly. To me there's no clear fighters deserving a shot. The right thing to do would be Wilder vs. aj. Then again seems to me that Joshua doesn't want any part of wlider. Also he is avoiding fighters that could put him in lala land, like Ortiz. Actually a lots of fighters don't want any part of the old man.

Whyte has never fought for a championship before, so no, he hasn't had a shot yet.

So the scrubs who Deontay fought deserved a shot though? Haha.

AJ is fighting Povetkin next. The Joshua/Wilder fight won't be taking place until April. In the meantime Wilder can face Whyte.

At what point could Joshua face Ortiz?

The Joshua fight is there when Wilder finds his pen. The only one ducking at this time is Deontay by pricing himself out.

[Rubber Ducky]

It's easy to call out a guy that can't fight you. That's right because Ortiz was dropped from the WBA, WBO and IBF rankings for the failed doping test, Joshua can't get the fight sanctioned even if he wanted to fight Ortiz.

If Ortiz wanted the fight so much why did he not sign with Hearn and sign with Haymon and then negotiate a fight with Wilder even before his mandatory was mandated?

[Rubber Ducky]

You do know Ortiz turned down the July date with Whyte and wanted it at a later date don't you?

Takam was a mandatory, so it couldn't have been then. Moliona was short notice when Wlad got injured, so it couldn't have been then. Joshua was making the first defence against Brezeale and wasn't going to fight the top fighters just yet as he needed some experience. The rest i'm not even going to respond to because it's beyond ridiculous. Maybe Joshua should have fought Ortiz in his debut or something? Haha.

Actually Joshua didn't fight Breazeale and Molina because he needed the experience before stepping up, he faced them because as part of the Martin deal, Hearn had to give Haymon 2 options on Joshua.

So in reality Joshua might of stepped up sooner but because Haymon wanted Joshua's first 2 defences against his heavyweights Breazeale and Molina, Joshua didn't have any choice in the matter.

[Sid-Knee]

Actually Joshua didn't fight Breazeale and Molina because he needed the experience before stepping up, he faced them because as part of the Martin deal, Hearn had to give Haymon 2 options on Joshua.

So in reality Joshua might of stepped up sooner but because Haymon wanted Joshua's first 2 defences against his heavyweights Breazeale and Molina, Joshua didn't have any choice in the matter.

There is that as well. But even if that deal didn't exist, you couldn't ask for Joshua to go straight in against the big boys. Having a couple of fights at the lower level was good for him because he hadn't had that many fights at the time.

[BoxHec]

Then you'd have no problem in telling me when Joshua and Ortiz could have fought?

Since AJ have a world belt.. lol, first quarter of 2016? i know Ortiz was suspended one time but he fought a lot of time since AJ won his first fake world belt.. and hey boy he actually fought Wilder too.. and maggot eddie tactic is the same, he want Ortiz & Wilder to be kOed before they have the chance to fight AJ, for having a last final BS excuse for avoiding them.. and AJ fans loves maggot eddie, because he protect him to be destroyed in front of the entire world.. and at the same time protect his bs legacy and honor by lying about Wilder.. zozopeans will never change, a bunch of d!kheads liars!