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  • OldTerry
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    #61
    Originally posted by Ray*
    A very good and balance article, I couldn’t sense a bias tone from this article. Am even leaning toward agreeing that the 15m dollars is low offer. But like I have said previously money shouldn’t be any B-sides motivation, especially when a chance at all the belts would make you bigger. Hopefully they both sort this out for next year April.
    What you say about money shouldn't be a "B" side motivator is an opinion not a fact. Wilder obviously doesn't feel the same as you and guess what, he is entitled to his opinion. As far as making the fight happen Wilder's opinion about how much money he should received is what matters, not yours or mine.

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      #62
      Carl Froch does an interview with ifl tv on youtube, explains Hearn's tricks.

      AJ got a 13 months of delaying and preparing if they fight in April which is what he needed to prepare for Wilder as his performances against Takam and Parker were poor and need to improve plus Wilder who is an explosive athlete will turn 33 years old and AJ can make £30 million against Povetkin in the meantime.

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        #63
        Originally posted by scarybodyshot
        This fight is easy to make as Wilder/AJ have agreed to everything else, the only stumbling block is the money. BOTH sides need to do the right thing in that Hearn needs to improve his offer but Wilder needs to be realistic.

        I'm curious to see how long the comments on this thread remain sensible!
        Probably about as long as it takes me to drink five more beers

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          #64
          Originally posted by scarybodyshot
          This fight is easy to make as Wilder/AJ have agreed to everything else, the only stumbling block is the money. BOTH sides need to do the right thing in that Hearn needs to improve his offer but Wilder needs to be realistic.

          I'm curious to see how long the comments on this thread remain sensible!

          Originally Posted by Curt Henning the article tries hard to remain neutral and does a good job for the most part

          the biggest problem is that....wilder would have taken the 15 mil and would have signed the deal if hearn had made it for this year instead of next.....hearn tried to hoodwink the entire public by failing to guarantee the fight to be NEXT for both guy.....he dragged wilders side through months of BS and insulted wilder and his manager.....so now wilder stance has changed due to hearns behavior...he wont be so keen to the 15 mil when it comes time to talk again

          Originally posted by Oshio
          This reads like a kindergarten comment. Only an unserious champ will take that stand. Where is the ambition?

          Well someone beat me to it.
          Last edited by OldTerry; 07-28-2018, 05:58 PM.

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            #65
            Originally posted by Sun_Tzu
            I didnt read the article mainly because Im tired of this shit.The bottom line is Wilder should have taken the 15 million dollar offer. It was offered for the next fight as I follow the timeline and Im sure Ill have mfers from both sides arguing either side. I dont care really but the fact is Joshua has 3-4 belts..has the better resume and the better following. Wilder has stated unequivocally that he will knock Joshua out so why not take the short money the first fight and clean up from then on. I mean thats what the mfer that alot of people here worship did when he fought ODLH and went on to be the highest paid boxer in history. The facts are the facts, Wilder needs Joshua, Joshua doesnt need Wilder. What did Joshua pull down last year? Ive heard upwards of $50 mill. He can literally fight anyone and sell 80k arenas out 3 times a year. He is calling the shots and he wont be giving that position up, he would be dumb to do so.

            Wilder will take his $15 million and like it just like Floyd took what ODLH gave him. Time will tell if he can capitalize on it.
            If it is all about money, then you are right. Joshua can retire rich with the reputation of "ducker" and "coward" as his legend. If he doesn't mind being thought of that way then more power to him.stain.
            Last edited by OldTerry; 07-28-2018, 06:06 PM.

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              #66
              Originally posted by OldTerry
              If it is all about money, then you are right. Joshua can retire rich with the reputation of "ducker" and "coward" as his legend. If he doesn't mind being thought of that way then more power to him.stain.

              At this level it is all about money unfortunately for boxing fans. I would rather see Joshua vs Wilder in September just like everyone else. If it never happens there will be people that have a negative opinion of Joshua but there will also be a massive fan base that loves him. Its just how I see things at the moment, Im not a fan of the marinate, A side B side ****. This is really the only sport I can think of that at the championship level the best arent always facing the best.

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                #67
                Originally posted by Sun_Tzu
                At this level it is all about money unfortunately for boxing fans. I would rather see Joshua vs Wilder in September just like everyone else. If it never happens there will be people that have a negative opinion of Joshua but there will also be a massive fan base that loves him. Its just how I see things at the moment, Im not a fan of the marinate, A side B side ****. This is really the only sport I can think of that at the championship level the best arent always facing the best.
                Your right and that is why boxing needs an international governing body who lays down the regulations for all professional boxing. Sadly that will never happen and the promoters will continue to frustrate us with their selfish decisions.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by OldTerry
                  What you say about money shouldn't be a "B" side motivator is an opinion not a fact. Wilder obviously doesn't feel the same as you and guess what, he is entitled to his opinion. .
                  Actually he does, he said “I don’t care about the money, that should be the excuse, no more ducking, no more dodging, I would fight any where” look up those words after his last fight. And I agree with him. When am trying to be the top guy in the world then money wouldn’t be my motivation too.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by BendOver
                    Why do you say that it is an act of jealousy? Maybe none of the champs wanted to tangle with wilder, just like aj. Wilder is the most recognizable champs out there. Why didn't aj went after him instead of parker? It would have made more money while taking a belt from a better fighter than parker.
                    I expected you to say wilder should have made efforts to unify.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Ray*
                      Actually he does, he said “I don’t care about the money, that should be the excuse, no more ducking, no more dodging, I would fight any where” look up those words after his last fight. And I agree with him. When am trying to be the top guy in the world then money wouldn’t be my motivation too.
                      Deontay says lot of things but even if he says money is not a motivator for him it really is. What I think he means is he is motivated by wanting to be the unified champion. Think about it if you took his share of the money pie out of the equation he wouldn't accept the fight.

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