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  • MulaKO
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    #51
    Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
    It could very well all be bs ane just a ploy to enhance sales.
    That’s all it is
    I don’t even think one or the other is ducking , just looking to make the money
    What’s beyond me though is how it becomes this huge , I mean huge argument and it gets ugly and all
    Meanwhile these fighters r laughing or they will be a la McGregor , Mayweather , Pac etc etc all the fughin way to the bank
    If I didn’t catch these fights for " free "especially the ppv s i wouldn’t drop the coin to see them
    Fugh that
    Most of them r garbage cards and the main card being the biggest disappointment
    Mark my words , watch how fast espn+ and Dazn will disappear
    It’s not the cost , it’s just the fact that people don’t want to fork over anything
    Ffs , I remember going to concerts for thirty bucks
    Not anymore , why , cause people rip off the music , so they gotta profit somewhere
    Meet and greet : fugh off

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    • Noelanthony
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      #52
      Originally posted by champion4ever
      Fine, I apologize. You spoke both tactfully and eloquently. Also, I appreciate the manner and tone in which you spoke.

      What drives me is when I hear AJ fans always saying that Deontay should have signed the contract. You can't make a grown man do something that they don't want to do.

      When he was all prepared to sign the contract he noticed that Hearn left several key logistical aspects out of it. They were not in writing.

      All Wilder did was request that he put those logistics in writing. However Joshua fans say that Eddie Hearn said the fight was going to take place sometime in either October or November of 2018. Well how will he know that if it's not in writing?

      Anyhow, when Deontay requested the revised contract with a date and venue, the original contract was snatched right out from under him by Eddie Hearn. Eddie subsequently ended all talks and negotiations and some three weeks later chose to fight Povetkin instead; When he announced to the world that he had only 24 hours in order to do so.

      Everyone says that Wilder should have signed the contract anyway without knowing all the details in writing but what if he would have made a mistake? Let's say what if he would have signed a blank contract and then several weeks later it was revealed that Matchroom Boxing had filled in all those blank spaces with a date slated for Wembley in April of 2019 after being promised verbally a date of either October or November of 2018 of this year?

      Now don't you agree that would have been a classic Bait-and-switch tactic? So now the old contract is off the table and its time for Matchroom Boxing to draft up a new one in order to bring Wilder back to the table because that original contract was both cruel and unfair.

      Yet, Wilder was willing to accept all the terms and conditions of it anyway. Deontay bent and bent some more in order to get this fight done. Now it's time for Anthony to do the very same thing if he sincerely wants this fight to get done.

      I hope that I have made more sense this time.
      Bro I see your argument I really do. A champion that fights his mandatory is offered 25%. Deontay is a champion he deserves in excess of that. I can not want him to win but still appreciate no champion deserves a flat fee .Even when Joshua talks and says there is enough money to go round what does that mean? If that’s the case then behave like there is.Give the man his percentage. Joshua has looked sheepish and although I believe he is not scared he really wants to reward himself handsomely for the huge task in front of him. It doesn’t help that both teams don’t like each other. Who the hell is Parker yet he got a percentage. When these points are mentioned by yourself and other Americans ,my mouth is firmly shut because I agree .

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      • Laligalaliga
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        #53
        Originally posted by SAINTSTEVE
        You can't give him too much credit for Parker because his was perceived as an easier trinket to pick up than Wilder's. Who is he fighting next after Parker, a champion? No.
        Now let's assume he fought some WW to unify those belts. He has shown intent of unifying the division. Wilder has been champ for almost 3yrs with no single unification.
        Am ashamed you still have doubts who really wants to unify the division.

        Wilder's quest to unify now is an act of jealousy for AJ and his position in the division and all the love and money he makes.

        He has all the time to unify but he decided to fight bums, it's no AJ's fault. AJ fought to put himself in that position, so he is entitled to call the shots to his favor whenever and however he wants.

        If wilder fans can't deal with it, they can seek another route.

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        • SAINTSTEVE
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          #54
          I'm going another route alright which is mostly interested in the lower weight classes until Joshua decides he's ready to fight. That what my avatar means.

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          • Just looking
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            #55
            Hearn always planned to make the fight next year, to make it useful for Dazn. The problem now is that now Showtime and Haymon won't let this be on Dazn. Wouldn't be surprised if Wilder fights Fury on april 13th

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            • BendOver
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              #56
              Originally posted by Ray*
              A very good and balance article, I couldn’t sense a bias tone from this article. Am even leaning toward agreeing that the 15m dollars is low offer. But like I have said previously money shouldn’t be any B-sides motivation, especially when a chance at all the belts would make you bigger. Hopefully they both sort this out for next year April.
              They are both champions and aj is not Mike Tyson, the guy can fill a soccer stadium in England. What about in the USA? There is more money here. The fact of the matter is that the boxer has to worry about getting the most. Everyone was talking $h1t about ggg and his hold up about his cut. He is getting pay now. Nothing wrong with that. aj is known in Great Britain, How about the rest of the World? I was reading that wilders side offered $50M to him. No response.

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              • BendOver
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                #57
                Originally posted by Laligalaliga
                Now let's assume he fought some WW to unify those belts. He has shown intent of unifying the division. Wilder has been champ for almost 3yrs with no single unification.
                Am ashamed you still have doubts who really wants to unify the division.

                Wilder's quest to unify now is an act of jealousy for AJ and his position in the division and all the love and money he makes.

                He has all the time to unify but he decided to fight bums, it's no AJ's fault. AJ fought to put himself in that position, so he is entitled to call the shots to his favor whenever and however he wants.

                If wilder fans can't deal with it, they can seek another route.
                Why do you say that it is an act of jealousy? Maybe none of the champs wanted to tangle with wilder, just like aj. Wilder is the most recognizable champs out there. Why didn't aj went after him instead of parker? It would have made more money while taking a belt from a better fighter than parker.

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                • Ray*
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by BendOver
                  They are both champions and aj is not Mike Tyson, the guy can fill a soccer stadium in England. What about in the USA? There is more money here. The fact of the matter is that the boxer has to worry about getting the most. Everyone was talking $h1t about ggg and his hold up about his cut. He is getting pay now. Nothing wrong with that. aj is known in Great Britain, How about the rest of the World? I was reading that wilders side offered $50M to him. No response.
                  Hopefully they both signs for April if not we can all move on.

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                  • TheCell8
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                    #59
                    It's a legacy fight for both. The winner would remain undefeated and would also become the undisputed champion.

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                    • OldTerry
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                      #60
                      The article is pretty fair and as a Wilder fan I even agree that it is an easier fight for Joshua than Wilder. The thing is Wilder is not going to fight for $15. million. Joshua fans make the argument that $15 million would by far be Wilder's biggest payday, but think about it the fight would also be Joshua's biggest pay day by far. Hearn can afford to offer Wilder 35% or $25 million and still get the lion's share of the revenue. If you want to see this fight as much as I do then the pressure needs to be put on Hearn. Ridiculing and trashing Wilder won't make the fight happen but paying him like he is a world champion (even if it is only one belt) will make the fight happen. The fight is about more than money, it's about Legacy, honor and bragging rights and this applies to Joshua as well as Wilder.
                      Last edited by OldTerry; 07-28-2018, 05:38 PM.

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