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  • BLASTER1
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    #21
    [QUOTE=TJ highway;18972464]
    Originally posted by Dr.Cool
    It is true. Lil Manny doesn't have a chance against Loma or Crawford. Of course, lil Manny doesn't have much of a chance to beat The Hornet either. There is a reason Pac decided he didn't want a rematch with Horn for a title. He has already been stung by The Hornet and he doesn't want that kind of pain again. At least JMM just knocked him unconscious, but The Hornet was ruthless, stalking him non-stop and pummeling Pac to a bloody mess. It was reminiscent of Ali toying with Patterson, The Hornet just refused to end Manny's misery and kept punishing him, stopping just short of a sure ko. It was pretty ruthless. It sidelined Manny for over a year, as his body needed that long to recover from such punishment. Don't see why Manny would sign up for another beating like that.[/QUOTE

    LOL! You sound like some bloke from down under how has had too many bitters,

    Robert Byrd wouldn't allow any of Horns shenanigans against Bud he paid a dear price for it.




    Well the Pacquaio/Horn fight was in Australia. The referee Mark Nelson did not have the expedience to be on the world stage. Like I mentioned Robert Byrd wouldn't allow any of Horns bullying and dirty tricks against Bud.
    More like Bud wouldnt let Horn get away with the rough house tactics.
    Let's not blame the ref for Mannys weakness.
    When Horn was rough housing why didnt Pac fight fire with fire.
    He must of known after the first cpl of rounds that the ref wasnt gonna be no help.

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    • KiloTeague
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      #22
      Manny needs to stay away from Roach. Fight Loma. I think PAC can still beat him

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      • TJ highway
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        #23

        According to CompuBox statistics, Pacquiao connected on 182 out of a total of 573 punches thrown (32 percent), while Horn connected on just 62 of 625 (15 percent).

        Pacquiao landed 123 of 380 power punches (32 percent), while Horn connected on just 73 of 428 (17 percent). Pacquiao also got more jabs in, connecting 59 of 193 thrown (31 percent), while Horn went 19 of 197 (10 percent).

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        • Reloaded
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          #24
          Originally posted by Spoon23
          lol and that is why you are fired Roach. You don't know what's going on anymore.


          Pac doesn't need a rematch. All we need is to looks at Horns face to know Horn's win was an empty win. Pac turned his face into a big target practice. Boxing is not about wrestling and fouling. Everyone knows Horn got a gifted win in Australia. everybody. Except you Roach lol

          You're too sick to coach Roach.

          Is this Igor Roach?









          Here's the wrestling match that is allowed only in Australia were in Horn resides .

          #FAKEWIN






          Off course he should fight Horn again to revenge the loss and put it right, but in the USA .

          Are you scared Manny will be roughed up again and wont look like he is punching a heavy bag like he did with the much smaller than Horn LM.

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            #25
            Pac going to beat the sht out of Loma put him to sleep in a easy 8 rds

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            • TJ highway
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              #26
              Originally posted by Reloaded
              Off course he should fight Horn again to revenge the loss and put it right, but in the USA .

              Are you scared Manny will be roughed up again and wont look like he is punching a heavy bag like he did with the much smaller than Horn LM.
              Originally posted by Low_Blows_420
              Pac going to beat the sht out of Loma put him to sleep in a easy 8 rds
              Don't kill the messenger but there might be more money to be made if Manny fights Amir Khan in Asia or GB. Especially if he can get a tax exempt fight in Asia or Dubai. One last payday! Than worry about Bud and Loma, minus Freddie and the "Bob Father!"

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              • rmd22360
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                #27
                Originally posted by Dr.Cool
                It is true. Lil Manny doesn't have a chance against Loma or Crawford. Of course, lil Manny doesn't have much of a chance to beat The Hornet either. There is a reason Pac decided he didn't want a rematch with Horn for a title. He has already been stung by The Hornet and he doesn't want that kind of pain again. At least JMM just knocked him unconscious, but The Hornet was ruthless, stalking him non-stop and pummeling Pac to a bloody mess. It was reminiscent of Ali toying with Patterson, The Hornet just refused to end Manny's misery and kept punishing him, stopping just short of a sure ko. It was pretty ruthless. It sidelined Manny for over a year, as his body needed that long to recover from such punishment. Don't see why Manny would sign up for another beating like that.
                You are ignorant and perhaps ******ed. Go and take your medicine.

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                • Mrsantiago
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by TJ highway

                  According to CompuBox statistics, Pacquiao connected on 182 out of a total of 573 punches thrown (32 percent), while Horn connected on just 62 of 625 (15 percent).

                  Pacquiao landed 123 of 380 power punches (32 percent), while Horn connected on just 73 of 428 (17 percent). Pacquiao also got more jabs in, connecting 59 of 193 thrown (31 percent), while Horn went 19 of 197 (10 percent).


                  You do know that compubox and other “punchstat” numbers are just some guy punching buttons on punches he thinks landed right? Also compubox numbers do not say who won or loss a fight just as baseball stats wont tell who won or will win the World Series.
                  Im not saying this to say pacman loss or horn won not at all but l see too many people here using stats and who bled the most to justify a win or a loss. Tbh pacman left the fight in the home town judges hands for the hometown fighter by not dominating every round. Lie to yourself if you wanna but it was a close fight and ugly fight yes but it was close and in a close fight in a persons hometown 9-10 the judges are gonna give it to the hometown or the house fighter. Pacman has even benefited at times in his career as the house fighter. Although pacman usually is more dominant/spectacular in fights in the Horn foght he looked a little tired and allowed himself to be bullied at times.
                  I think in a rematch pacman will not underestimate horn and should win a clear decision or probably stop horn as far as loma it depends on the weight but Crawford might stop pacman.

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                  • Spoon23
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Reloaded
                    Off course he should fight Horn again to revenge the loss and put it right, but in the USA .

                    Are you scared Manny will be roughed up again and wont look like he is punching a heavy bag like he did with the much smaller than Horn LM.
                    lol

                    So If I choose Loma or Crawford rather than Horn for Pac. Does that mean I'm scared in that pee sized brain of yours?

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                    • Combat Talk Radio
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Dr.Cool
                      It is true. Lil Manny doesn't have a chance against Loma or Crawford. Of course, lil Manny doesn't have much of a chance to beat The Hornet either. There is a reason Pac decided he didn't want a rematch with Horn for a title. He has already been stung by The Hornet and he doesn't want that kind of pain again. At least JMM just knocked him unconscious, but The Hornet was ruthless, stalking him non-stop and pummeling Pac to a bloody mess. It was reminiscent of Ali toying with Patterson, The Hornet just refused to end Manny's misery and kept punishing him, stopping just short of a sure ko. It was pretty ruthless. It sidelined Manny for over a year, as his body needed that long to recover from such punishment. Don't see why Manny would sign up for another beating like that.
                      Originally posted by BLASTER1
                      I honestly dont think Manny wants the Horn fight now or ever again.
                      Manny really got treated like a school yard geek and Horn was the bully.
                      I'm sure though if he did do the re-match i see it as nearly a 50/50 if the fight was in Australia.
                      Originally posted by TJ highway

                      More like Bud wouldnt let Horn get away with the rough house tactics.
                      Let's not blame the ref for Mannys weakness.
                      When Horn was rough housing why didnt Pac fight fire with fire.
                      He must of known after the first cpl of rounds that the ref wasnt gonna be no help.

                      Agreed with all of you.

                      Manny needs to rematch Horn and stop ducking this man. Win that, then win a rubber match, then retire with money.

                      I'd like to see the rematch in Brisbane. Mark Nelson as ref. If Manny wins, he becomes the A-Side, then we can talk about where Manny wants to fight for the rubber match. But he's got to overcome this.
                      Last edited by Combat Talk Radio; 07-28-2018, 07:16 AM.

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