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  • Laligalaliga
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    #91
    Originally posted by OCPancho
    Why stop there?
    Just say Wilder should fight for free.
    I though your major concern is the fight. like Ortiz, he will KO AJ in 3.
    I don't see how 15mil, being on ppv, undisputed champ and the global image is not good enough to make one sign a fight he is so confident on winning early.
    It should be a promo fight for wilder to claim all the glory.
    That same fight is still a signature away from happening.
    Why delay your destiny by yourself?

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    • Vae Victis
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      #92
      Originally posted by Noelanthony
      It is definitely more than a 50 million fight and in April the fight will be even bigger. As far as who deserves what without question he deserves a percentage fee. Any champion for that matter especially in a unification deserves to sign a fight knowing his worth in a fight.i am a Joshua fan but I agree with all Wilder fans in this case. Even Eddie’s contradictions on occasion you make valid points but to suggest that absolutely everything he says is false and everything that stems from Team Wilder is the truth is a little naive.

      The narrative that Joshua is scared is cool and I’m not denying he has looked very sheepish but there is a contract he has signed that he is waiting for Wilder’s signature.... I know it’s a bull$**** contract then let Wilder or his team be vocal and say we want this percentage and then we sign. Now it’s all silent with Wilders last words being 50/50. Most of you Americans no that percentage is ****** yet you are all fine to keep quiet but talk about josh is scared and the 50 million.
      "Most of you Americans no that percentage is ******" If a fifty - fifty split was fine with Muhammad Ali in Ali vs Frazier I, tell me how it isn't fine in Joshua - Wilder? What ever could raise Anthony Joshua's impact on boxing so that he would get a better deal in Joshua vs Wilder than Ali got in Ali vs Frazier - especially at this stage of AJ's career (not that AJ will ever have the impact on boxing that Ali has had). Ali's record going into the Frazier fight: 31 - 0 and nine previous (major) title fights at age 29. AJ's record when he refused to sign for fifty million dollars: 21 - 0 with a handful of title fights at age 28. Ali won his Olympic gold medal without controversy. AJ's Olympic gold medal was a gift - the judges decision an outright robbery. In addition to his impact on boxing, by 1971, Muhammad Ali was known throughout the entire world as a public figure who place his career on the line for refusing to support the undeclared Vietnam war. AJ's has a criminal record and has served time in Reading Prison, but he isn't world renowned. So tell me again that AJ deserves a greater percentage than does Wilder. Only an AJ fanboy or a complete dolt would believe that. Muhammad Ali split the purse 50 - 50 with Joe Frazier, and there is no way that Anthony Joshua (especially at this stage of his career) deserves any better deal than 50 - 50 for fighting Wilder. AJ's insistence on getting a greater percentage than Wilder is simply AJ's way of refusing to fight Wilder and nothing more. Remember, AJ's turned down fifty million dollars guaranteed. Either AJ is incapable of understanding what fifty million dollars guaranteed means, or AJ knows that he'll lose to Wilder and is refusing to sign for that reason.

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      • Laligalaliga
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        #93
        Originally posted by OCPancho
        Sure, name one heavyweight unification bout where one champion got $15M while the other one's upside is some $75M to $100+.
        name me one champ with 40 fights and never been on ppv.

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          #94
          Originally posted by Laligalaliga
          name me one champ with 40 fights and never been on ppv.
          Chocalito .

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            #95
            Originally posted by Laligalaliga
            I though your major concern is the fight. like Ortiz, he will KO AJ in 3.
            I don't see how 15mil, being on ppv, undisputed champ and the global image is not good enough to make one sign a fight he is so confident on winning early.
            It should be a promo fight for wilder to claim all the glory.
            That same fight is still a signature away from happening.
            Why delay your destiny by yourself?
            Yawn.
            Because if he does KO AJ in 3 rounds, there wouldn't be a rematch and that might be only his big payday.


            NAME ONE MEGA FIGHT with purse parity worse than $75m+ to $15M .
            You won't. This would be like freaking Oscar de la Hoya fighting Forbes kind of parity.

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              #96
              Originally posted by Laligalaliga
              name me one champ with 40 fights and never been on ppv.
              When has AJ been on U.S. PPV?

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                #97
                Originally posted by Vae Victis
                "Most of you Americans no that percentage is ******" If a fifty - fifty split was fine with Muhammad Ali in Ali vs Frazier I, tell me how it isn't fine in Joshua - Wilder? What ever could raise Anthony Joshua's impact on boxing so that he would get a better deal in Joshua vs Wilder than Ali got in Ali vs Frazier - especially at this stage of AJ's career (not that AJ will ever have the impact on boxing that Ali has had). Ali's record going into the Frazier fight: 31 - 0 and nine previous (major) title fights at age 29. AJ's record when he refused to sign for fifty million dollars: 21 - 0 with a handful of title fights at age 28. Ali won his Olympic gold medal without controversy. AJ's Olympic gold medal was a gift - the judges decision an outright robbery. In addition to his impact on boxing, by 1971, Muhammad Ali was known throughout the entire world as a public figure who place his career on the line for refusing to support the undeclared Vietnam war. AJ's has a criminal record and has served time in Reading Prison, but he isn't world renowned. So tell me again that AJ deserves a greater percentage than does Wilder. Only an AJ fanboy or a complete dolt would believe that. Muhammad Ali split the purse 50 - 50 with Joe Frazier, and there is no way that Anthony Joshua (especially at this stage of his career) deserves any better deal than 50 - 50 for fighting Wilder. AJ's insistence on getting a greater percentage than Wilder is simply AJ's way of refusing to fight Wilder and nothing more. Remember, AJ's turned down fifty million dollars guaranteed. Either AJ is incapable of understanding what fifty million dollars guaranteed means, or AJ knows that he'll lose to Wilder and is refusing to sign for that reason.
                why are you still groaning over this ficticious 50mil while the real contract is on wilder's table.
                Can you wake up to reality and leave all this fake history you composed here?
                Since I started following and watching boxing I have never heard or seen a contract offered through twitter video with 24hrs deadline while multitude of manager/promoters/co-promoters/editors/typist were all sleeping in their respective offices.
                What a joke!!!

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                • Laligalaliga
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                  #98
                  Originally posted by OCPancho
                  Chocalito .
                  I have no business with all this chicken weights.
                  Gimme a HW name buddy.

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                  • Laligalaliga
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by OCPancho
                    Yawn.
                    Because if he does KO AJ in 3 rounds, there wouldn't be a rematch and that might be only his big payday.


                    NAME ONE MEGA FIGHT with purse parity worse than $75m+ to $15M .
                    You won't. This would be like freaking Oscar de la Hoya fighting Forbes kind of parity.
                    a guy earning an average of 1.5mil with no ppv to his name, barely fill a 20k arena and has never unified cannot be in a position to dictate things.
                    He should appreciate hearns magnanimity and big heart for offering him something this big.
                    Parker got less than half of that.
                    He should be grateful mann.

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                    • Laligalaliga
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by Redd Foxx
                      Word.
                      "Jealous" is the idiot's go to when they don't know what else to say.
                      Fury helped revive British boxing and he did the heavy lifting on Wlad. He's not even active but still seems to get more love from his people than AJ. I don't think he's got much to be jealous over. One thing I'll tell you is that if he was in AJ's position, he'd be fighting Wilder. Not posturing and stalling.

                      It's just funny seeing the members here who were on the Fury wagon, then jumped to AJ, and now they don't know WTF to do.
                      Maybe if they were actual boxing fans and not just soccer fans who watch boxing, they wouldn't have this confusion. It's ok to like the sport and not "take sides".
                      Who ever sell out stadiums obviously is the fans favorite. You know nothing what you talk about.
                      Am not talking about 15k arena here, am taking about stadium buddy.

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