Comments Thread For: Eddie Hearn: Talks For Bellew-Usyk Fight to Start This Week

[cameltoe]

the 50 million deal went back and forth for over a week so the 24 hr deadline was not a hard timetable. I think they called AJ bluff then when all wa met they shiiit their pants.

It didn’t have any details cause all they were doing was meeting AJ requests. In his video he say where the fight had to take place . All he had to do was accept the offer then a contract with details could have been provided. Hearn did the same thing to wilder with the 15 million, no date, no venue, not even a rematch clause which was verbally agreed to.

A reasonable offer ? 15 million? You know this fight will make over a 100 million.

Tell me another Hw in the history of prizefighting and a fight of this magnitude where one fighter took a flat fee ?

I know 50/50 won’t happen but I think 60-40 is fair since Parker got 65-35.

In reality I do think both sides should cut shiiit and make it happen no matter what.

I think this will eventually go down the Parker route and a split such as you describe will happen.

Way I see it is this:
-Eddie knows they are the A side.
-Eddie knows- at this point- Wilder needs AJ more than AJ needs Wilder. Who else is Wilder going to fight?
-AJ can draw big crowds and make big numbers and has at least one, maybe two big fights he can fall back on in the meantime.
-Therefore Hearn is happy to lowball Wilder for now to play psychological games. If it happens it happens, if it doesn’t, no pressure.

Wilder’s team on the other hand are sickened with being the B side (which they are) and this is affecting the way they go about their negotiations. They think Eddie’s playing games, so they play games too. Power struggle. Part of the reason they didn’t just sign it and get it done.

Therefore both sides are butting heads and both sides are kind of playing games. But I think Eddie is definitely less-bothered if the fight doesn’t happen. AJ will stay relevant and still have big fights. Wilder won’t. But him and his team can’t seem to get out of their own way.

I do think Eddie’s offer for Wilder to come and fight Whyte in the U.K. to build the fight was genuine, and they were also looking at the Miller fight in the US to try and hype it there a bit.

I think it happens April 2019 if both win.

[kej718]

I give very little credence to the $50 million offer, because;

-It came with a 24 hour deadline
- No details were included
-Finkel and Wilder refused to meet with Hearn to offer any information on it.
-They refused to answer any questions, ‘Take-it-or-leave-it’ was the deal.
-Initially they had no proof of funds.
-Would have paid Wilder waaay less than $15 million.

Y’all getting salty about Hearn not putting details in his contract, yet you expect them to sign on this?

The $50 million is a smokescreen and I really don’t know why anyone still talks about it given it was countered by a realistic proposal from Hearn which Wilder and his team then agreed to.

I think the $50 mil would have been possible if they fought in America. The biggest gates in boxing history have been in Vegas. Mayweather had that alone in his biggest fights. I think they assumed a huge gate in Vegas plus PPV would get it done, but once Joshua said he wanted to fight in the UK (which is fine) that went out the door.

Here are the top ones
http://boxing.nv.gov/results/Top_Boxing_Gates/

I think this fight could generate at least $25 mil off the gate alone, or higher since it is a Heavyweight fight that will attract causal and international fans. This is another reason why I believe Hearn was working so hard on that Wembly deal because the US had more money to offer so he had to set that in place.

The fight will never get made if one guy has to only take a flat fee (I think even Parker got a split). Joshua shouldn't do it for $50 mil, and Wilder shouldn't do it for $15 mil when it can generate so much more. If they ever do fight the rematch has to be in Vegas. It is about the money for both of them and that is where most of the money is.

Can anyone confirm if Parker took a flat fee or a split?

[Patsfan bri]

I think this will eventually go down the Parker route and a split such as you describe will happen.

Way I see it is this:
-Eddie knows they are the A side.
-Eddie knows- at this point- Wilder needs AJ more than AJ needs Wilder. Who else is Wilder going to fight?
-AJ can draw big crowds and make big numbers and has at least one, maybe two big fights he can fall back on in the meantime.
-Therefore Hearn is happy to lowball Wilder for now to play psychological games. If it happens it happens, if it doesn’t, no pressure.

Wilder’s team on the other hand are sickened with being the B side (which they are) and this is affecting the way they go about their negotiations. They think Eddie’s playing games, so they play games too. Power struggle. Part of the reason they didn’t just sign it and get it done.

Therefore both sides are butting heads and both sides are kind of playing games. But I think Eddie is definitely less-bothered if the fight doesn’t happen. AJ will stay relevant and still have big fights. Wilder won’t. But him and his team can’t seem to get out of their own way.

I do think Eddie’s offer for Wilder to come and fight Whyte in the U.K. to build the fight was genuine, and they were also looking at the Miller fight in the US to try and hype it there a bit.

I think it happens April 2019 if both win.

I agree. That pretty much sums it up.

They are the A side and I think the A side no matter who the fighter is can make fights happen.

[Patsfan bri]

I think the $50 mil would have been possible if they fought in America. The biggest gates in boxing history have been in Vegas. Mayweather had that alone in his biggest fights. I think they assumed a huge gate in Vegas plus PPV would get it done, but once Joshua said he wanted to fight in the UK (which is fine) that went out the door.

Here are the top ones
http://boxing.nv.gov/results/Top_Boxing_Gates/

I think this fight could generate at least $25 mil off the gate alone, or higher since it is a Heavyweight fight that will attract causal and international fans. This is another reason why I believe Hearn was working so hard on that Wembly deal because the US had more money to offer so he had to set that in place.

The fight will never get made if one guy has to only take a flat fee (I think even Parker got a split). Joshua shouldn't do it for $50 mil, and Wilder shouldn't do it for $15 mil when it can generate so much more. If they ever do fight the rematch has to be in Vegas. It is about the money for both of them and that is where most of the money is.

Can anyone confirm if Parker took a flat fee or a split?

it was a 65-35 split for the AJ/Parker fight

[Corelone]

I don't know Eddie from Adam. It's just letting off frustration watching his scheming vs everybody else's scheming. They don't call it a rat race for nothing.

[BoxngLove]

Again, Hearn has always delivered big fights.

If we’re looking at *just* the Wilder fight not happening, maybe the issue is Wilder and his team? Given Wilder hasn’t had a big fight in 40 contests and has never fought a premium name.

I think Ortiz is enough of a name. Wilder has not had a murderers row, but he didn't win his title from Charles Martin like AJ.

Of the two fighters I would rather have AJ's path. Even
@41year old WK still almost wiped him out. AJ is barely the best in his own city.

[Flabble Scrote]

I cant see Bellend having much chance on the scoreboard , Usyk has faced punchers at least as heavy also.
Usyk moves too well and is too smart for Bellew to be able to set him up like a shot David Haye , I see him getting absolutely schooled.

I'm sure Bellew could make 200lbs, hes just a chubby 210lbs, I doubt he would as he fancies he has an advantage at heavyweight.

This is a great fight, I want to see Usyk beat Bellew, fight someone big, then Joshua I think Usyk has a good chance with his lomachenko angles to stay in touch on scoreboard with AJ

[Boxingfanatic75]

Iftv quoted Hearn

"Usyk needs to understand he's the B-side here.

He may have 4 belts at cruiser but Bellew won a belt too.

Usyk is unproven at heavyweight but Tony is proven & could fight for the world title the year.

He sells out stadiums.

We want the fight but we won't let Usyk take momentum from Tony's career with delays.

The offers there. We want the fight. Its a flat fee offer for £50.

We've done all we can do & shown we're serious"

Lol... sells out stadiums? Shows you how gulliablena public is to pay to watch garbage box and actually sell out stadiums doing it. Wow the division must truly be that desperate and the fans in tow.

[Scary_canary]

Haha this fight ain’t gonna happen, and we no know it won’t be because of Usyk.... but I would respect the **** out of Bellew if he took it... cruiser or heavy

[Scary_canary]

I think Ortiz is enough of a name. Wilder has not had a murderers row, but he didn't win his title from Charles Martin like AJ.

Of the two fighters I would rather have AJ's path. Even
@41year old WK still almost wiped him out. AJ is barely the best in his own city.

is stirverne really better than Martin lol both are pretty dogshi t