More Impressive Unification- Bud or Usyk?

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  • TheBigLug
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    #11
    Originally posted by Squ□redCircle34
    He's in my p4p top 3, under both Bud and Loma with SSR being #4!
    He beat the best in their hometown, def top 5 p4p since thats not done a lot nowadays!
    Would you not say that Rungvisai and Usyk have far better wins than Crawford?

    It's not even close.

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    • FinitoxDinamita
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      #12
      Crawford is more exciting to me..

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      • Tony Trick-Pony
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        #13
        Originally posted by Squ□redCircle34
        He's in my p4p top 3, under both Bud and Loma with SSR being #4!
        He beat the best in their hometown, def top 5 p4p since thats not done a lot nowadays!
        Yes, that's some crazy shlt. A lot of guys won't fight in the other man's backyard. I will give Bud props on going to Scotland doe.

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        • Stephankotyk
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          #14
          Usyk did it better, had a harder comp and went to every sigle enemy territory for belts including Moscow.
          Only hardcore bug fans will deny his place in pfp over carwford

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          • Illmatic94
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            #15
            Usyk
            Canelo/GGG 2 winner
            Loma
            Crawford
            Spence

            my top 5 PFP

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            • Mammoth
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              #16
              Usyk but both are top 3 P4P

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              • Squ□redCircle34
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                #17
                Originally posted by TheBigLug
                Would you not say that Rungvisai and Usyk have far better wins than Crawford?

                It's not even close.
                Thats subjective, but Bud takes the definition of pound for pound and flips it on your head!

                135
                140
                147

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                115

                No debate, Bud has to mix it up with Pacquiao or Thurman or Porter/Garcia cuz Loma and Usyk is on his heels!

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                • TheBigLug
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Squ□redCircle34
                  Thats subjective, but Bud takes the definition of pound for pound and flips it on your head!

                  135
                  140
                  147

                  200

                  115

                  No debate, Bud has to mix it up with Pacquiao or Thurman or Porter/Garcia cuz Loma and Usyk is on his heels!
                  I don't think you can put fighters as p4p number one just because they have had success in a few divisions. He only beat Horn at 147 and his best win at 135 was against a featherweight Gamboa or Burns.

                  I know Crawford unified a division too but it was a weak division and he's still yet to have a really impressive win over a very good name.

                  Crawford is a hell of a fighter but for me is just missing that really impressive win that cements him as no.1. I could probably say the same for Loma too, Rigo was just too small and i don't think Linares is top level, even if he is skilled.

                  Ward was the last clear p4p no.1 for me, wins over Kovalev are the type of win that really confirm your place as the best. I guess GGG could be no.1 had he got a fair decision, but officially it says draw with Canelo.
                  Last edited by TheBigLug; 07-22-2018, 07:00 AM.

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                  • ShoulderRoll
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                    #19
                    Crawford showed his dominance at lightweight before unifying at 140. And he is knocking dudes out left and right.

                    That is something to consider in his favor.

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                    • _Rexy_
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                      #20
                      both are fantastic fighters, but Usyk had to run through Glowacki, Huck, Briedis and Gassiev.

                      When Marco Huck is considered the worst fighter you beat, that's a huge feat.

                      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                      Crawford showed his dominance at lightweight before unifying at 140. And he is knocking dudes out left and right.

                      That is something to consider in his favor.
                      agree to disagree. i don't think that Usyk's inability to drain down to 175 should be used against him.

                      Much easier to cut 5lbs and fight in a lower class than it is to cut 25lbs.

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