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  • Shadoww702
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    #51
    Originally posted by livershot73
    "CompuBox stats showed that Golovkin was the busier of the two, landing 218 of 703 thrown (31%), while Álvarez was slightly more accurate, landing 169 of his 505 thrown (33%). Golovkin out landed Álvarez in 10 of the 12 rounds."

    and I disagree, what ***'d up Carne-lo was the fact that he was in the ring with a REAL MW, not someone that had to move up from another weight
    class....which is probably why he chose to implement a poor man's version of Floyd, something he has never, ever done before in ANY of his previous fights....
    Busier??? What at missing 500 times?? Or giving someone a round because they landed 5 more jabs in that round while the other guy crushed it with 50% power punches landed???

    WoW!!!! You REALLY give out rounds by how many punches are landed???

    Thats just silly.

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    • Diego Rodriguez
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      #52
      Originally posted by Shadoww702
      I didnt give every close round to Pedbelo. I gave round 11 to GGG. 7-5.

      I only score round by round and throw out all previous work the round before once i score that round. Its like the Jack/Adonis fight. I scored it a draw but looking at the entire fight it looked like Jack kicked his ass. His rounds were VERY clear. I didnt have to look at anything else like combos, etc.
      So you scored it right IMO.

      Do you score rounds 10-10?

      My issue is this; if someone is not scoring rounds 10-10 (which virtually no pro judge does) but everyone knows there are even rounds, than it is illogical not to consider who you gave a toss up round to when consider future rounds.

      As an example, round one is a toss up, but you gave it to Golovkin. Round 2 is clear, you give it to Canelo. Round 3 is a toss up you should give it to Canelo based on the fact you gave round 1 which was a toss up to Golovkin. IMO that is how it should be done. Or alternatively, you go 10-10 round 1, 10-9 Canelo round , 10-10 round 3.

      Again I would like to see the judges have to note round by round how decisively someone won a round. Would be as simple as D and M right next to the scoring. Then we can get an idea how in line they are with what the rest of us saw.

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      • Progrssive_Jedi
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        #53
        Originally posted by .!WAR MIKEY!
        Keyword: "easier" meaning Arum who has no upside to bigging up any of GBP fighters but just keeping it real knows Canelo won.

        GGG gonna be eating out of a straw for life after Canelo gets done with em.
        You need to read it a little closer. Arum is saying Canelo will get skunked because his ass is going to be clean this time.

        Nice try though. If doped up Canelo coukdnt faze ggg with a flush shot on chin, I suspect the most talk is bs and he’s gonna look to keep it close and hope the judges do their bidding.

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          #54
          Originally posted by Shadoww702
          Busier??? What at missing 500 times?? Or giving someone a round because they landed 5 more jabs in that round while the other guy crushed it with 50% power punches landed???

          WoW!!!! You REALLY give out rounds by how many punches are landed???

          Thats just silly.
          Crushed it, that’s funny. If he thought that was the case, he wouldn’t be doping.

          GGG jabs are power punches, ask anyone whose felt them. There’s no rule jabs are worth less. GGG controlled each round while Canelo sat back and had sporadic moments of success. Canelo gets props for some good Defense, but could sustain it long enough to be effective.

          If Canelo and GBP wasn’t the most crooked outfit in sports, this would have been scored at best 7-5 for ggg, more likely 8-4. The judge who scored round 7 for Canelo is proof it was shady as ****.

          Truth is, like the last fight, Canelo comes in with a huge advantage, he has the judges, the crowd, and will get every benefit of doubt. GGG better get used to that.

          But don’t get it twisted, the fact Canelo has needed that his whole career is telling. Even Floyd got some of the absurdity.

          Canelo us the prime fighter, numerous big stage fights, has the judges, and was using drugs. Yet still had needed absurd scoring to get a draw. He waited until ggg was mid 30’s to fight, and still looked to dope. That’s simply the fact.

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            #55
            Oscar is funny because he's never right .

            And someone needs to tell him to stop drinking .

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              #56
              Originally posted by Diego Rodriguez
              So you scored it right IMO.

              Do you score rounds 10-10?

              My issue is this; if someone is not scoring rounds 10-10 (which virtually no pro judge does) but everyone knows there are even rounds, than it is illogical not to consider who you gave a toss up round to when consider future rounds.

              As an example, round one is a toss up, but you gave it to Golovkin. Round 2 is clear, you give it to Canelo. Round 3 is a toss up you should give it to Canelo based on the fact you gave round 1 which was a toss up to Golovkin. IMO that is how it should be done. Or alternatively, you go 10-10 round 1, 10-9 Canelo round , 10-10 round 3.

              Again I would like to see the judges have to note round by round how decisively someone won a round. Would be as simple as D and M right next to the scoring. Then we can get an idea how in line they are with what the rest of us saw.
              There should be even rounds .
              There should be 4 judges anyway.Only rounds where 3 judges ( at minimum ) score the same for one boxer should be counted imo.
              First rounds are almost always an even round.
              They're just feeling each other out .

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                #57
                Originally posted by Diego Rodriguez
                So you scored it right IMO.

                Do you score rounds 10-10?

                My issue is this; if someone is not scoring rounds 10-10 (which virtually no pro judge does) but everyone knows there are even rounds, than it is illogical not to consider who you gave a toss up round to when consider future rounds.

                As an example, round one is a toss up, but you gave it to Golovkin. Round 2 is clear, you give it to Canelo. Round 3 is a toss up you should give it to Canelo based on the fact you gave round 1 which was a toss up to Golovkin. IMO that is how it should be done. Or alternatively, you go 10-10 round 1, 10-9 Canelo round , 10-10 round 3.

                Again I would like to see the judges have to note round by round how decisively someone won a round. Would be as simple as D and M right next to the scoring. Then we can get an idea how in line they are with what the rest of us saw.
                No I do not score rounds 10-10.

                Ive just been wired not to. And its a shame because then I'm making a last minute decision that I have no time to even think about or even can see a replay to review. I go off some quick notes and then like most a guess or feelings.

                Yes, I wish we could do 10/10 rounds. I also feel it should be 13 or 15 round fights. 12 doesnt cut it anymore. I see 12 rounds and still cant figure a winner out.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Progrssive_Jedi
                  Crushed it, that’s funny. If he thought that was the case, he wouldn’t be doping.

                  GGG jabs are power punches, ask anyone whose felt them. There’s no rule jabs are worth less. GGG controlled each round while Canelo sat back and had sporadic moments of success. Canelo gets props for some good Defense, but could sustain it long enough to be effective.

                  If Canelo and GBP wasn’t the most crooked outfit in sports, this would have been scored at best 7-5 for ggg, more likely 8-4. The judge who scored round 7 for Canelo is proof it was shady as ****.

                  Truth is, like the last fight, Canelo comes in with a huge advantage, he has the judges, the crowd, and will get every benefit of doubt. GGG better get used to that.

                  But don’t get it twisted, the fact Canelo has needed that his whole career is telling. Even Floyd got some of the absurdity.

                  Canelo us the prime fighter, numerous big stage fights, has the judges, and was using drugs. Yet still had needed absurd scoring to get a draw. He waited until ggg was mid 30’s to fight, and still looked to dope. That’s simply the fact.
                  See you made good points until you said should of been 8 rounds. I honestly didnt see GGG winning 8. Thats about as bad as me picking 7 for Canelo.

                  I saw no issue with a draw. You fail to see that GGG threw almost ZERO combos. Forgot about the body. And missed 500 times.

                  Some were so bad I was like WTF?!! Abel CLEARLY didnt train him and had a shty night giving him advice. Read Breadmans comments also.

                  And you go RTARD saying someone almost 10 years younger waited you dumb ***!

                  This POS wanted 21 year old Canelo to fight a PRIME 160lb GGG. Your a FKN JOKE!!!

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                  • Shadoww702
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Progrssive_Jedi
                    You need to read it a little closer. Arum is saying Canelo will get skunked because his ass is going to be clean this time.

                    Nice try though. If doped up Canelo coukdnt faze ggg with a flush shot on chin, I suspect the most talk is bs and he’s gonna look to keep it close and hope the judges do their bidding.
                    How come prime GGG ran from Andre Ward??? Anyone from 154-168 doe! Ohhh my BAD! Brook was 147. Anyone from 147-168 BUT ONLY at 160.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Shadoww702
                      I won $$$$ on the 1st fight and dont just pop off the mouth like Kunts like u. Just remember Im the guy backing my talk up. Your the clown with ANOTHER opionion and too fkn scared to back it up. Or don't really belive your own words.

                      I know how to score fights you dont! Ive seen your sht Byrd Jr. card. You gave ALL the close rounds to GGG. Even round 1 with sht feel-out jabs over clean combos. So go ***-OFF. Or better yet put your $$$$ where you kunt is at.
                      Canelo did absolutely nothing in the first round. He landed a couple of combinations and backed up almost every minute of the round. Golovkin outlanded him and was the aggressor. For a guy that was challenging for a title it was a poor first round performance from Canelo. Golovkin was slightly more accurate in the first round. Golovkin fought his fight and Canelo didn't fight his usual style.

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