Comments Thread For: Trainer: Pacquiao is Unbeatable When He Trains Like That!

[Mzembe]

Yawn.
Wow, Bradley is a journeyman now?
Gotta love fl0mo math.
When Floyd fights a title holder, he's a legit titleholder.
But, Bradley is a journeyman.
Even if the Ring had him at #1 or 2 after Floyd retired.


Fighter of the Decade. Scoreboard.

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Never under estimate the (un)intelligence of a human being. Sometimes we bait people by using certain examples to draw them into something.

So, I don't think Bradley was a legit but I specifically harped on him because you refuse to respond about Algieri or Diaz or Horn or Brandon Rios or even Mosley right after Mosley had just lost to Floyd.

Those are the names I was stressing.

[Mzembe]

Where

How was Oscar cheated?
He was the A-side. He made the match. That's why he went down to fight Forbes then Pac. But, how would you know ?

Cotto and Margarito were cheated on catch weight fights ?

So did Floyd cheat Canelo ? Canelo who picked up the belt Pac dumped in the trash can ? Canelo won the same belt on a catchweight fight against the other Hatton. And lost it on catchweight fight t Floiv?

Hey Cotto lost his middle belt at a catchweight fight with Canelo. Maybe he got cheated too. lol
The only weight cheating was what Floyd did to Marquez. Go ahead, deny that one. lol

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Oscar was forced to fight at 147. It's a weight Roach demanded knowing very well it would drain Oscar.
Oscar fought Forbes because Forbes' style was similar to Floyd per Oscar's thoughts. His intention was to rematch Floyd. Hatton was a discussion but it was NEVER the reason he fought Forbes.

Roach demanded a catchweight of 145 for Cotto - this was billed as PAC's WW and championship fight.
Roach demanded a catchweight of 150 for Margarito - this was billed as PAC's MW and championship fight.

Canelo couldn't get Floyd on the table since he was the BIGGER guy so he offered Floyd a catchweight of 152. In my opinion it wouldn't have mattered since Floyd would have still beat Canelo and you know it.

Canelo and Cotto was a mutual agreement. No one was advantaged unlike PAC vs the guys I mentioned

[OCPancho]

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Oscar was forced to fight at 147. It's a weight Roach demanded knowing very well it would drain Oscar.
Oscar fought Forbes because Forbes' style was similar to Floyd per Oscar's thoughts. His intention was to rematch Floyd. Hatton was a discussion but it was NEVER the reason he fought Forbes.

Roach demanded a catchweight of 145 for Cotto - this was billed as PAC's WW and championship fight.
Roach demanded a catchweight of 150 for Margarito - this was billed as PAC's MW and championship fight.

Canelo couldn't get Floyd on the table since he was the BIGGER guy so he offered Floyd a catchweight of 152. In my opinion it wouldn't have mattered since Floyd would have still beat Canelo and you know it.

Canelo and Cotto was a mutual agreement. No one was advantaged unlike PAC vs the guys I mentioned

You're still clueless.
Did you expect Pac to fight at 154 after one fight removed from 130??? Wait, yes. You are clueless.
And a hypocrite nuthugger .

NOBODY forced Oscar nuthin'. Oscar was the boss.
HE MADE MORE MONEY. 65-35 easily.

Oscar went down to 150 to test the waters .
And yes, he was going to fight Hatton. Dude, Floiv RETIRED. k, he actually was hiding from Margarito and Cotto. FLOIV was not in the immediate picture. HATTON was .
IF Forbes was the pitstop before Floyd, how come Oscar fought Pac??? DUH!
Oscar signed Hatton .They were going to fight.
Pac was the pitstop. Nobody expected Pac to win.
NOT EVEN YOU. The betting odds were heavily in favor of Oscar . All you geniuses now did not bet on Pac at more than double your money odds .
When you agree to a catchweight fight, it is what it is .
You don't want a catcweight, walk away.


Yeah, you're a hypocrite .
Dog Pac for his catchweight fight, but somehow it's all good when Floiv does it .
Floyd rematched Maidana at 147 but somehow the jr middle belt was at stake too. Did you protest that fight as well? LOL


You even dogged Pac for fighting JMM at less than 147.
DUH? JMM was going up from 140. He too asked for a below the limit fight. Somehow Pac was bad for agreeing to below the limit fight? Duh!

You're clueless.
Go argue with someone who does not know boxing history. lol

Let's protest the Leonard-Lalonde fight.
Wait, you have no clue what happened there.

[OCPancho]

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Never under estimate the (un)intelligence of a human being. Sometimes we bait people by using certain examples to draw them into something.

So, I don't think Bradley was a legit but I specifically harped on him because you refuse to respond about Algieri or Diaz or Horn or Brandon Rios or even Mosley right after Mosley had just lost to Floyd.

Those are the names I was stressing.

You need to search the meaning of journeyman.
Apparently, you have no clue what it means.

Diaz held the green tin . If Floiv fights for a green tin, it's all ok because he likes the green tin. But, if Pac fights for it, the other guy is a bum.

Again, Rios was a tune-up after a KO loss.

Algieri was a optional defense. Had zero losses and beat Ruslan.

Mosley was an easy money in the bank. Kinda like Ali against Bugner. Hey, let's protest that one.
Floiv fought Zab after Zab just lost to Tata .
Did you protest that one too ? Go add your own math, bro. Zab was 7-3 in his last 10 fights. Woopeee!

[Mzembe]

You need to search the

Diaz held the green tin . If Floiv fights for a green tin, it's all ok because he likes the green tin.

Again, Rios was a tune-up after a KO loss. Algieri was a optional defense. Had zero losses and beat Ruslan.

Mosley was an easy money in the bank.Floiv fought Zab after Zab just lost to Tata . Did you protest that one too ? Go add your own math, bro. Zab was 7-3 in his last 10 fights. Woopeee!

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Diaz may have had the green tin as you call it but can you compare him to say Guerrero? Even then why couldn't PAC fight the top dogs at 135? How many belt holders did Floyd fight at 147?

Rios a tune up? Rios has always been garbage. There were better fighters out there. The great PAC surely could have fought even Alvarado who Rios had just lost to.

Algieri was virtually unknown. Do you know how many undefeated boxers exist around the world? We can use that crap of "undefeated" when fighting them.

Mosley had just lost to Floyd. Can you imagine if Floyd had fought Margarito right after Margarito lost to PAC? You nut huggers would have had a field day. When PAC does it, it's ok, right? That's your logic.

About Zab, even Floyd himself said it was not necessary to fight him but Zab still held one belt. Without a belt Floyd had no leverage and Floyd was not the superstar he was gunning for so he chose to fight Zab. Regardless, Zab did pretty ok for the first 5 rounds and was a much better opponent than Rios could ever be.

[Mzembe]

You're still clueless.
Did you expect Pac to fight at 154 after one fight removed from 130??? Wait, yes. You are clueless.

Floyd rematched Maidana at 147 but somehow the jr middle belt was at stake too. Did you protest that fight as well? LOL

You even dogged Pac for fighting JMM at less than 147.
DUH? JMM was going up from 140. He too asked for a below the limit fight. Somehow Pac was bad for agreeing to below the limit fight? Duh!

Let's protest the Leonard-Lalonde fight.
Wait, you have no clue what happened there.

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You are right about two things. If you don't want a catch weight, walk away. And nobody forces any fighter to do anything. Those are undisputed truths.
But when Freddie Roach insists that Oscar, Cotto and Margarito fight PAC at a catch weight then you know as a trainer he knows PAC will get beat so he wants to give his guy all the advantage. My question is if PAC is so good, does he really need catch weights?

As for the Forbes fight, here's a link to prove you don't jack about boxing. Floyd had the intention of rematching Floyd and was using Forbes ... read it and weep clown.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2...ght-mayweather

Having the MW belt against Maidana was just a joke. They probably wanted Floyd to be the only guy to fight for two titles at the same time. But I agree it was a **** move.

Floyd called out Cotto at 140 and Cotto's team refused saying they weren't ready to fight a guy coming up in weight.
Margarito was always a cheat and Bob Arum would have scuttled that fight. You know that.

PAC vs JMM debate was done when PAC got starched in a spectacular KO. The same guy could not win a single round against Floyd. The same guy who said he will not chase Floyd for a rematch because Floyd would still beat him. Catchweight or not

[OCPancho]

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You are right about two things. If you don't want a catch weight, walk away. And nobody forces any fighter to do anything. Those are undisputed truths.
But when Freddie Roach insists that Oscar, Cotto and Margarito fight PAC at a catch weight then you know as a trainer he knows PAC will get beat so he wants to give his guy all the advantage. My question is if PAC is so good, does he really need catch weights?

As for the Forbes fight, here's a link to prove you don't jack about boxing. Floyd had the intention of rematching Floyd and was using Forbes ... read it and weep clown.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2...ght-mayweather

Having the MW belt against Maidana was just a joke. They probably wanted Floyd to be the only guy to fight for two titles at the same time. But I agree it was a **** move.

Floyd called out Cotto at 140 and Cotto's team refused saying they weren't ready to fight a guy coming up in weight.
Margarito was always a cheat and Bob Arum would have scuttled that fight. You know that.

PAC vs JMM debate was done when PAC got starched in a spectacular KO. The same guy could not win a single round against Floyd. The same guy who said he will not chase Floyd for a rematch because Floyd would still beat him. Catchweight or not

yadayada
And all those worthless wins got Pac a title shot at Floiv. Duh!
Hell, Floiv went to Pac's hotel to ask him for a fight .
Sure he said, " Hey, your wins over Diaz, Hatton, Cotto, Oscar, Rios and Algieri are worhtless. Wait, you were KO'd by Marquez"
See how that works, genius ?
Quit your nuthugging resume-reducing argument over a former opponent of Floiv because you also take away from floiv's resume.
Damn, fl0mos are dumb .

Again, genius, did you really expect Pac to go to 154 after one fight at 135 to fight Oscar ? Wait, you did . lol
Pac was 3 to 1 underdog against Oscar .
That's worse than floiv going up to 160 to fight GGG. Floiv sure wouldn't be 3-1 underdog against GGG.

Floiv is not the first to fight with two division titles on the same fight .
Guess you didn't know about Leonard-Lalonde.
And I'm supposed to be clueless in boxing history ?

[OCPancho]

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Diaz may have had the green tin as you call it but can you compare him to say Guerrero? Even then why couldn't PAC fight the top dogs at 135? How many belt holders did Floyd fight at 147?

Rios a tune up? Rios has always been garbage. There were better fighters out there. The great PAC surely could have fought even Alvarado who Rios had just lost to.

Algieri was virtually unknown. Do you know how many undefeated boxers exist around the world? We can use that crap of "undefeated" when fighting them.

Mosley had just lost to Floyd. Can you imagine if Floyd had fought Margarito right after Margarito lost to PAC? You nut huggers would have had a field day. When PAC does it, it's ok, right? That's your logic.

About Zab, even Floyd himself said it was not necessary to fight him but Zab still held one belt. Without a belt Floyd had no leverage and Floyd was not the superstar he was gunning for so he chose to fight Zab. Regardless, Zab did pretty ok for the first 5 rounds and was a much better opponent than Rios could ever be.

Right, and when floiv fights chicken dance Zab after zab lost to a journeyman, it's all ok.
Pfft!

[CHOWWOKKA]

Another convenient excuse for Pacquiao.

He only loses when he doesn't try

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Diaz may have had the green tin as you call it but can you compare him to say Guerrero? Even then why couldn't PAC fight the top dogs at 135? How many belt holders did Floyd fight at 147?

Rios a tune up? Rios has always been garbage. There were better fighters out there. The great PAC surely could have fought even Alvarado who Rios had just lost to.

Algieri was virtually unknown. Do you know how many undefeated boxers exist around the world? We can use that crap of "undefeated" when fighting them.

Mosley had just lost to Floyd. Can you imagine if Floyd had fought Margarito right after Margarito lost to PAC? You nut huggers would have had a field day. When PAC does it, it's ok, right? That's your logic.

About Zab, even Floyd himself said it was not necessary to fight him but Zab still held one belt. Without a belt Floyd had no leverage and Floyd was not the superstar he was gunning for so he chose to fight Zab. Regardless, Zab did pretty ok for the first 5 rounds and was a much better opponent than Rios could ever be.

He also brought Rios and Algerie up to WW for their first fight at the weight.

Manny is histories greatest manipulator of weight, he has moved fighters up or down looking for the advantage depending on their threat.

How do you justify all the flip flopping with weight that he has done I cant because I can see right through his intentions, the ignorance of the average fan does not understand weight at all, they only see their hero winning they don't ever see how screwed over the opponent was on the scales and how that effected their performance.