Comments Thread For: Manny Pacquiao: Do I Look Old? I'm Back!

[Butch.McRae]

That was corrected idiot.

Here is the 25 page rebuttal by USADA

https://www.usada.org/wp-content/uploads/USADAs-Detailed-Correction-to-SB-Nation-Article-by-Tom-Hauser.pdf

It took 25 pages to point out all the false statements in that article. Hausers response to that was simply "they should have just given him a glass of water."

Most media ran this, but it was after the Floyd-Berto fight, and so it was a paragraph somewhere in a paper, or a 15 second clip on television.

Hauser never denied that he completely made up USADA going to Floyds home unannounced and "caught" him with an IV. But when you make up stuff like that, it gets a lot of attention, while the corrections a day or two later, don't get the same attention.

Hauser was paid by hbo. Literally. He was paid to write that by the company that lost tens of millions of dollars when Floyd left. USADA called him out on his lies, and Hauser simply replied, he should have drank water.

Sorry for saying you lied, you probably did not know. You were just ignorant, not a liar. My bad.

Great share here. I knew about the conflict of interest with Hauser and HBO but I had no idea USADA responded. Very professional work there.

[Butch.McRae]

Let me ask you a serious question. Did you ever think Floyd had most of these people in his back pocket?

Man it's tough to be a fan of Floyd and Manny. Do I think Manny has don't PEDs at some point? Yes. Do I think Floyd has as well? Yes I do. Do I think 99% of boxers have used? I do.
I've taken my fair share of gear and can tell you that the gym is rampant with it.
With pros we're talking big end results, fame and Fortune ect.
Ever thought to yourself, why is it that Floyd waits so long before he announced a fight?
I just get sick of one side getting all the blame with zero proof when as fans we all know all these guys are using or have used at one time.

I just wanted to chime in here.

It is true that everybody takes "something." However, that doesn't mean everybody is taking a banned substance.

It's important to make that distinction. The UFC and the new IV policy is a great example in my opinion. Something that was once common practice is now barred.

[Dr.Cool]

Let me ask you a serious question. Did you ever think Floyd had most of these people in his back pocket?

Man it's tough to be a fan of Floyd and Manny. Do I think Manny has don't PEDs at some point? Yes. Do I think Floyd has as well? Yes I do. Do I think 99% of boxers have used? I do.
I've taken my fair share of gear and can tell you that the gym is rampant with it.
With pros we're talking big end results, fame and Fortune ect.
Ever thought to yourself, why is it that Floyd waits so long before he announced a fight?
I just get sick of one side getting all the blame with zero proof when as fans we all know all these guys are using or have used at one time.

USADA is funded by the U.S. government. They get paid hundreds of millions by the government every year. If they were found to be lying and doing anything wrong or unethical they would lose hundreds of millions of dollars. Lance Armstrong was an American hero, with Mayweather type money. They brought him down.

Also, there is absolutely no proof of USADA walking in and catching Floyd with an IV.

The person who made that up, was paid by the company who lost hundreds of millions of dollars when Floyd left them. So Hauser was definitely in the pocket of hbo. Also, why has Hauser never once, denied this? When USADA and Mayweather both said this, Hauser's reply was he should have drank water. How did Hauser find this out? Are you saying you believe that USADA went to Floyd's home unannounced, and caught him with an illegal IV, and then USADA or Floyd told Hauser this and no one else?

That doesn't even begin to make sense. If they were in Floyd's pockets, why would they even show up at his house unannounced?

VADA, who does most of the testing in boxing today, actually gets almost all of its money from boxing and UFC. They could be bought much more easily.

And I as I've stated before, I most definitely believe Floyd and every boxer of note from the early 90's to 2010 used peds. But Hauser made that bs up, got called out on it, and never denied it. Not to mention it literally makes absolutely no sense. USADA went to Floyds home unannounced for what reason then??? Think, it is really common sense.

Yes, Floyd probably used peds, but Hauser basically admitted he made that IV story up. What is su****ious is what Arum said when he was asked about this. That Floyd's testerone levels were abnormally low. But to keep repeating a lie about the IVs is just ******ed. Arum never said anything about getting caught with an IV because he knew it was bs.

[man down]

I just wanted to chime in here.

It is true that everybody takes "something." However, that doesn't mean everybody is taking a banned substance.

It's important to make that distinction. The UFC and the new IV policy is a great example in my opinion. Something that was once common practice is now barred.

That said there's guys passing tests that should be failing them. Yoel comes to mind.

[sapaw]

USADA is funded by the U.S. government. They get paid hundreds of millions by the government every year. If they were found to be lying and doing anything wrong or unethical they would lose hundreds of millions of dollars. Lance Armstrong was an American hero, with Mayweather type money. They brought him down.

Also, there is absolutely no proof of USADA walking in and catching Floyd with an IV.

The person who made that up, was paid by the company who lost hundreds of millions of dollars when Floyd left them. So Hauser was definitely in the pocket of hbo. Also, why has Hauser never once, denied this? When USADA and Mayweather both said this, Hauser's reply was he should have drank water. How did Hauser find this out? Are you saying you believe that USADA went to Floyd's home unannounced, and caught him with an illegal IV, and then USADA or Floyd told Hauser this and no one else?

That doesn't even begin to make sense. If they were in Floyd's pockets, why would they even show up at his house unannounced?

VADA, who does most of the testing in boxing today, actually gets almost all of its money from boxing and UFC. They could be bought much more easily.

And I as I've stated before, I most definitely believe Floyd and every boxer of note from the early 90's to 2010 used peds. But Hauser made that bs up, got called out on it, and never denied it. Not to mention it literally makes absolutely no sense. USADA went to Floyds home unannounced for what reason then??? Think, it is really common sense.

Yes, Floyd probably used peds, but Hauser basically admitted he made that IV story up. What is su****ious is what Arum said when he was asked about this. That Floyd's testerone levels were abnormally low. But to keep repeating a lie about the IVs is just ******ed. Arum never said anything about getting caught with an IV because he knew it was bs.

If Houser allegation is not true, thats ab big money for Libel... but looks like USADA dont want to dig on this coz they might be digging their own grave.

[hugh grant]

Should have left roach ages ago

[flojspot80]

They never did random blood testing in aussie and it was a close fight that i had for manny. Hater! I feel like manny got no choice with these haters if he wins...hes on peds..if he loses hes over the hill. Smh

[Spoon23]

they're all over the place.. they dont know which excuse to run with..

lucas is old, pac is on peds, lucas got paid off to lose, etc.

lol

Pac is so great that these haters have no idea how to down play Pac's performance.

I do, since the first lethal punch Pac threw that landed on lucas face. Lucas went on ***** st. coz that first punch Pac landed in the first round had bad intentions. It stung so bad. Lucas knew he needed to go defensive. Story of the night. It happened to most opponents of Pac. Clottey, Rios, Algieri and even Mayweather who resorted to running and hugging.

But a lot of boxer have a lot of game plan until they get hit. Ask Mike Tyson. You know the guy who used to be called kid dynamite.

[Butch.McRae]

If Houser allegation is not true, thats ab big money for Libel... but looks like USADA dont want to dig on this coz they might be digging their own grave.

That's not how libel works. Absent some special damage, a claimant for defamation will not meet its burden of proof. So just because there's a false statement doesn't mean there's a claim upon which relief is available.

[Gary Coleman]

Manny is not back!

He fought a 35 year old, shot Matthysse who has already been beaten by the likes of Viktor Postol and Danny Garcia.

The overhyping of this victory is hilarious, but good for the sport, so...whatever.