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Originally posted by Cigar View PostThat will be total BS if Keith 'never again' Thurman becomes the mandatory to the winner of this fight.
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Originally posted by Boxing Logic View PostSeems like Al Haymon waited to start matching the best of his stable vs the best all the way until they got exposed as not being as good as we thought they were. 5-6 years ago, Mares vs Santa Cruz would have been seen as a marquee fight between two elite level 122 pounders (also because they were better at 122 than 126), Stevenson was still viewed as an elite 175 so any fight between him and someone with the potential, anyway, of Gvozdyk would have been viewed as a marquee fight, and Danny Garcia vs Keith Thurman or someone on Porter's level likewise would have been seen as a very exciting fight.
The problem is, Haymon waited until Stevenson was 39 years old, and declining, before making good fights with him. Haymon waited until Mares had been knocked out by a past prime Ghonzalez before matching him with Santa Cruz, and he waited until both Mares and Santa Cruz moved to a division where they have no punching power, 126. Haymon also waited until DSG got outboxed by Mauricio Herrera, and even struggled with past prime Lamont Peterson (who was never elite even in his prime and certainly not at 147), to match him with Thurman, and in that time Thurman had also lost his passion for boxing and killer instinct within the ring.
Likewise, Haymon waited until Shawn Porter got outboxed by Kell Brook before matching him with Thurman, and now waited until Porter struggled vs past prime Andre Berto, and showed less ability to hurt Adrien Broner than slow Marcos Maidana, before matching Porter with Thurman. Then, BOTH Porter and Garcia showed their limitations when they weren't even able to hurt Thurman as much as Diego Chaves, Jesus Soto Karass, and Luis Collazo was.
In other words, the shine is off ALL these guys, and only once the shine came off them did Haymon start matching them against each other. But now, these fights hold very little interest to me as a boxing fan. I will still watch in case they turn into good action fights, but in terms of the hierarchy of the sport, these fights no longer seem to really mean anything. All of these guys have shown their ceiling the last few years, and none of them have evolved past that in any fights I've seen since then.
I think the only way for them to have fights that mean something in that regard is stylistically. Stylistically, Danny Garcia or Shawn Porter might be very intriguing against Terence Crawford, for example. Maybe they could catch him? But Errol Spence just seems all wrong for both of them. If Porter couldn't hurt Broner or Berto, how is he going to hurt Spence? If DSG couldn't hurt Thurman, how will he hurt Spence? So if that's what they're building up to, it's just not that interesting. Even Thurman at this point doesn't seem interesting vs Spence. That's another guy who would make a much more interesting fight against Crawford because Crawford at least has been hurt before by a smaller guy and he's got a much leaner build, so these PBC guys at least have a puncher's chance vs him. But Spence is built like a Tank and neither DSG or Porter has proved to be a puncher at 147, PLUS they're slower than Spence too, so it ends up being a situation where every single advantage is on one side of the tale of the tape comparison and who wants to see fights like that?
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Gonna be a great nite, would love to go but don't have anyone who can watch my newborn son yet and I dont trust nannies or daycares!
I would bring him and just get him some baby headphones but the Barclays is just too hood!
Last time I went with my lady and people were literally sparking up blunts everywhere and someone even tried to sell me weed in the bathroom!
Oh well, guess I'll be watching a good card at home with chips, guacamole, lemon pepper wings and some alcohol!
Can't wait!
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Originally posted by Squ□redCircle34 View PostGonna be a great nite, would love to go but don't have anyone who can watch my newborn son yet and I dont trust nannies or daycares!
I would bring him and just get him some baby headphones but the Barclays is just too hood!
Last time I went with my lady and people were literally sparking up blunts everywhere and someone even tried to sell me weed in the bathroom!
Oh well, guess I'll be watching a good card at home with chips, guacamole, lemon pepper wings and some alcohol!
Can't wait!
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